Concluding Remarks

The Haswell platform ticks all the checkboxes for the mainstream HTPC user. It fixes some nagging bugs left behind in Ivy Bridge. Setting up MPC-HC with LAV Filters was a walk in the park. With good and stable support for DXVA2 APIs in the drivers, even softwares like XBMC can take advantage of the GPU's capabilities. Essential video processing steps such as chroma upsampling, cadence detection and deinterlacing work beautifully. For advanced users, the GPU is capable of supporting madVR for most usage scenarios even with DDR3-1600 memory in the system.

Admittedly, there doesn't seem to be much improvement in madVR capabilities over the HD4000 in Ivy Bridge. The madVR developer has also added more complicated algorithms to the mix and made further refinements to existing ones (such as the anti-ringing filter). The improvements in the Intel GPU capabilities haven't kept up with the requirements of these updates. That said, madVR with DXVA2 scaling works well and looks good, satifying some of the HTPC users who have moved to it from the default renderers. We could certainly complain about some missing driver features and the lack of hardware decode capabilities for 10b H.264 streams. HEVC (H.265) decode acceleration is absent too. However, let us be reasonable and accept the fact that despite  anime's adoption of 10b H.264 in a big way, it is yet to gain mass-market appeal. HEVC was standardized pretty recently, and Haswell's GPU would have long been past the design stage by that time. To further Intel's defense, neither NVIDIA nor AMD support these two features.

Talking of display refresh rate support, Intel has finally fixed the 23.976 Hz bug which has been plaguing Intel-based HTPCs since 2008. This is going to make HTPC enthusiasts really happy. The fact that Intel manages the best match for the required refresh rate compared to AMD and NVIDIA cards is just icing on the cake. The 4K H.264 decode and output support from Haswell seems very promising for the 4K ecosystem. It also strengthens H.264's relevance for some time to come in the 4K arena.

The biggest disappointment with Haswell in the media department is the regression in QuickSync video transcode quality. The salt in the wound is really Intel's claims before launch of significant increases in QS video quality. Ivy Bridge definitely produces better quality QSV accelerated video transcodes.  Combine that with a lack of significant progress on the software support side until recently (hooray for Handbrake, boo for no substantial OS X deployment) and you'd almost get the impression that Intel was trying its best to ruin one of the most promising features of its Core microprocessors. Haswell doesn't ruin QuickSync, the technology is still a great way of getting your content quickly transcoded for use on mobile devices. However, in its current implementation, Haswell does absolutely nothing to further QuickSync - in fact, it's a definitely step in the wrong direction.

The low power consumption of the Haswell system makes it ideal for HTPC builds, and we are very bullish on the NUC as well as the capabilities of completely passive builds as HTPC platforms. Our overall conclusion is that Haswell takes discrete GPUs out of the equation for a vast majority of HTPC users. The few who care about advanced madVR scaling algorithms (such as Jinc and the anti-ringing filters for Lanczos) may need to fork out for a discrete GPU, but even those will probably be of the higher end variety rather than the entry level GT 640s and AMD 7750s that we have been suggesting so far.

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  • Penti - Monday, June 3, 2013 - link

    Plus old hardware is old and not available anymore.
  • phoenix_rizzen - Monday, June 3, 2013 - link

    Quad-core Athlon-II, CPU fan configured to spin down as needed, case fan unplugged, SSD, nVidia 210 GPU (fanless) running Linux + XBMC. Sub-$300 CDN.

    Why would you need an i7 for an HTPC? Why would you need a skookum dGPU? And why would you be transcoding on the HTPC? The HTPC should just play the movies on the screen that's attached to it, nothing more. The movies shouldn't reside on the HTPC, and you should be plugging in mobile devices to transfer movies to/from them. That's what the skookum "server" in the other room is for. :)
  • solnyshok - Wednesday, October 23, 2013 - link

    This is quite old thread, but I wanted to add, that it strikes me that my htpc usage model is totally different from the one you described. I use Atom based htpc (dualcore 2.1GHz) which is on 24x7, doing playback to HDMI 1080p tv and torrents and file serving for home network. it is up to 10w and fanless. No MadVR though.
  • benamoo - Monday, June 3, 2013 - link

    I'm wondering why no one mentioned the upcoming Ouya console and possibly many more ARM based media player boxes coming to the market next year.

    I've been an HTPC user for years now, but it's not worth it anymore to invest in such a costly/bulky/noisy system simply for HTPC tasks. Sure, repurposing an old system is great, actually that's what I've been doing, but building a new one from scratch (especially with a Core i7) seems to be a huge waste of money IMO.

    I have high hopes for Ouya (and similar ARM/Android powered boxes). Hopefully the experience would be so good that we can finally rid ourselves of this Wintel duopoly.

    Don't get me wrong. I still believe an HTPC is the best media center box out there. But these boxes can offer very similar results with a fraction of the cost.
  • rennya - Wednesday, June 5, 2013 - link

    Mainly because those ARM players has crappy GUI and limited support for file formats and containers? Try playing a Matroska file that used segment linking, has a 10-bit H.264 1080p24 video stream with at least 10Mb bitrate, a DTS-HD MA 7.1 track and also a fully-styled SSA subtitle track and you will see that Ouya console crashed and burned while doing so.
  • sireangelus - Tuesday, June 4, 2013 - link

    Can someone explain to me why they don't get themselves a laptop with some remote functionality and use that as an htpc? shouldn't it be less expensive, have a lower tdp and be more useful?
  • HisDivineOrder - Tuesday, June 4, 2013 - link

    I sincerely hope they fixed the 23.976 bug in the IGP that is included with Bay Trail. If they did, there's your HTPC of choice for anyone not obsessed with MadVR.
  • halbhh2 - Tuesday, June 4, 2013 - link

    Such a careful review makes me want to have the new A10 6700 put through the same paces.
  • majorleague - Wednesday, June 5, 2013 - link

    Here is a youtube link showing 3dmark11 and windows index rating for the 4770k 3.5ghz Haswell. Not overclocked.

    Youtube link:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7Yo2A__1Xw
  • eio - Saturday, June 22, 2013 - link

    according to the snapshots, to my eyes, the QSV quality of HD4600 is significantly better than HD4000 & x264...

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