The Big Picture

For years Intel has been telling me that the world is becoming more mobile. Yet I could never bring myself to replace my desktop with a notebook, despite the convenience. I was always a two-machine-man. I had my desktop at home and my notebook that I carried around with me to tradeshows and meetings. I eventually added more mobile devices to my collection: an ultraportable for when I need to write but don't need to edit/publish, a smartphone and a tablet. Admittedly the tablet gets the least amount of use of my computing devices, I mostly just have it because I sort of have to. Although my collection of computing devices has become more mobile, none of these devices has supplanted the need for a desktop in my life.

Last year when the Arrandale based MacBook Pros came out I decided to give the notebook as a desktop thing a try. The benefits were obvious. I would always have everything with me whenever I carried around my notebook. I wouldn't have to worry about keeping documents in sync between two machines. And I'd see a significant reduction in power consumption and heat output. I setup an external storage array for my photos, music and movies, and then moved my main drive image over to the 2010 15-inch MacBook Pro. I even made sure I had the fastest 2.66GHz Core i7 available at my disposal. Sure it wasn't an 8-core Nehalem setup, but maybe it wouldn't be that noticeable?

I lasted less than a day.

It wasn't so much that I needed an 8-core Xeon setup. I spend less than 10% of my time running applications that require all 8 cores/16 threads. No, the issue was that Arrandale's two cores just weren't enough.

Most of my workload isn't heavily threaded, but the issue with only having two cores is that if you are running one processor intensive task you're limited in what else you can do with your system. Run a heavily threaded application and you've got no CPU time left for anything else. Run a lightly threaded application that's CPU intensive and you still only have one remaining core to deal with everything else. I don't need 8 cores all of the time, but I need more than two.

I suspect I'm not the only user around who may not constantly run heavily threaded apps, but can definitely feel the difference between two and four cores. I'll also go out on a limb and say the number of users who can tell the difference between 2 and 4 cores is larger than the number of users who can tell the difference between 4 and 8. What I'm getting at is this: Apple outfitting the new 15-inch MacBook Pro with a quad-core processor is a deliberate attempt by Cupertino to bring mobility to more of its desktop users.

Apple doesn't offer a good desktop Mac. You can get the Mac Pro but it's quite expensive and is often times overkill if you don't have a heavy content creation workload. Then there's the iMac, which can hit the sweet spot of the performance curve but there's no way to get it without a massive integrated display. Truth be told, Apple's 27-inch iMac is actually a bargain (for a Mac) considering you get a quad-core Lynnfield with a pretty good $999 display all for $1999. However not everyone is sold on the all-in-one form factor.

The new 15-inch MacBook Pro, when paired with an SSD, gives desktop users another alternative. Bring your external display to the party but drive it off of a notebook. You'll sacrifice GPU performance of course, but if you aren't a heavy gamer then you're not giving up all that much. In fact, for normal workloads you'd be hard pressed to tell the difference between one of these new MBPs and an iMac or Mac Pro.

Ultimately I believe this is why Apple chose to make the move to quad-core alongside Thunderbolt enablement. The main reason to stick four cores in a 15-inch chassis is for desktop replacement workloads. The last remaining limitation for desktop users adoption a notebook? Expansion.

The Mac Pro has four 3.5" drive bays. The 15-inch MacBook Pro, on a good day, has two 2.5" drive bays and that's only if you ditch the optical drive and buy an optibay. Then there's the whole fact that you can't add anything that's not a USB or FireWire device. Where are the PCIe slots? What about GPU upgrades? Currently you can't do any of that on a 15-inch MacBook Pro.

Thunderbolt could enable external expansion boxes. Not just for storage but other PCIe add-in cards. The bandwidth offered by a single Thunderbolt channel isn't really enough for high end GPUs, but a faster link could change the way switchable graphics works in the future.

My Concerns

Ever since the new MacBook Pros have arrived I've powered down the Mac Pro and have been using the 15-inch 2.3GHz quad-core as my desktop replacement. When at my desk it's connected directly to my monitor, keyboard, mouse, speakers and other peripherals. It's my desktop. But when I leave my desk, I unplug the five cables I've got going to the MBP (power, DisplayPort, 2xUSB, 1/8" audio and Ethernet) and carry my "desktop" with me.

The convenience is nice, I will admit. Before the mobile-as-a-desktop switch I always had to prepare my notebook with the data I needed for whatever trip I was taking. That usually included the latest copy of my Bench databases, snippets of articles I was writing and other pertinent documents. I don't rely on any cloud syncing for my most sensitive information, I did it all manually. With my laptop being my desktop (and vice versa), I lose the need to manually sync content across those two devices. All of my windows are in the same place all the time and life is good.

The performance difference in my day to day work isn't noticeable. Everything seems just as fast. If Quick Sync were enabled I'm pretty sure I'd be happy with the overall level of performance from this machine vs. a beefier Mac Pro setup. The number of times I need more than 4 cores for something other than video transcoding are pretty limited. I'm not saying that's the case for everyone, it's just the case for me personally.

There are downsides however.

Security. In the past, if I lost my notebook I only lost a minimal amount of data. I typically only put whatever I needed for my trip on my notebook, everything else was at home on my desktop. Now if I lose my notebook, tons of data goes with it—including lots of NDA data. FileVault (OS X's built in home folder encryption) is an obvious solution, but it doesn't come without issues. With FileVault enabled Time Machine backups can only happen when you're logged out and seem to take forever.

I believe OS X 10.7 is better equipped to handle security for a mobile desktop usage model. You get full drive encryption (FileVault only does your home folder) and perhaps even a Find my Mac feature.

Noise. In a desktop, when you've got a high workload on one or more cores your fans may spin a little faster but it's hardly noticeable. The heatsink you have cooling your CPU has a lot of surface area and the fan attached to it is large and spins slowly. With a notebook you don't have the luxury of quickly dissipating heat. As a result, when I have too many browser windows open with Flash running or if the dGPU is doing anything in 3D, the CPU/GPU fans in the 15-inch MBP spin up and are loud. Under these circumstances the setup is louder than my desktop which is annoying.

Cables. Ideally I'd want no cables connecting my notebook to all of the peripherals I need to connect it to. I want to sit it down and have everything just work wirelessly. I'd also want wireless power and a bunch of things that aren't realistic today. So I'm willing to deal with some cabling inconvenience. My preference would be two cables: one for power and one for peripherals/display. Today, it's five.

I believe this is another potential use for Thunderbolt down the road. Apple could build a Cinema Display with Ethernet, more USB ports, FireWire and audio out integrated into the display itself. A single Thunderbolt cable would carry all of those interfaces, reducing my current cable clutter to just two cables.

All of these are solvable problems, but they are definite issues today. Personally I don't believe they are enough to make me switch back to a desktop for work, although the security thing still bothers me. I may end up segmenting my data into stuff I keep on locally attached storage vs. on my notebook's internal drive in order to minimize what I carry around with me when I'm traveling. As for FileVault, I may look into alternative encryption options as Apple's solution right now just isn't practical if you use Time Machine.

13-inch Gaming Performance under Windows (Medium Quality) Final Words
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  • Bewareofthewolves - Thursday, March 24, 2011 - link

    Hello all, I just wanted a bit of advice. I am planning on buying one of the new Macbook Pro's, and wondered which one would best suit my needs. I am mainly making the purchase to use Logic Pro, which i will use extensively, i will also be using the internet regularly, should i go for a high end 13'' or the 15'' model. Advice would be appreciated, thankyou.
  • abhic - Sunday, March 27, 2011 - link

    Hey Guys,
    I had to decide what to upgrade to this year and I kept on going back and forth between the 13" & the 15" MBP. You guys single-handedly made up my mind! Kudos on an insanely well researched post.

    I ended up noting down a few points on how I analyzed the choices as well - http://vritti.net/2011/03/2011-15-macbook-pro-i7-2...

    Keep up the great work.
  • Mezoxin - Thursday, March 31, 2011 - link

    Does switching between SNB HD3000 and the discrete graphics work in windows 7 ?
  • tno - Wednesday, May 4, 2011 - link

    Nope. As they stated, in Win 7 it's dGPU only.
  • Steve Katz - Tuesday, April 12, 2011 - link

    Anand states that the Thunderbolt port is not even visible under Device Manager.

    Does this mean that the 2011 MBPs cannot use an external monitor under Windows 7? Or did the author mean that the Thunderbolt port is limited to mini-DisplayPort functionality under Windows 7?

    Lack of support for external monitors under Windows 7 would be a deal breaker for me.

    BTW: I had to create a new log on to post this comment. Anyone care to explain why it's "apparently spam?"
  • linked.account - Saturday, May 7, 2011 - link

    Well I think the subject of my question was enough to explain my question :D!
  • linked.account - Saturday, May 7, 2011 - link

    And what about Airport Express 802.11n ?
  • JCrichton - Monday, May 9, 2011 - link

    Would you happen to have a comparison or stats for the DGPU difference for the 6490M?
  • cagecurrent - Friday, May 13, 2011 - link

    Got my first Mac ever yesterday: a Macbook Pro 13" with the slower CPU. As I had a X25-M G2 160 GB SSD lying around I had planned from the start to install it. It was super-smooth, and everything works perfect.

    Love Mac/OSX, really sold on it... probably getting a second Mac before the end of the summer.

    Per, Sweden
    @cagecurrent
  • angad - Wednesday, June 8, 2011 - link

    I was kind of hoping for a better look at Windows 7 (and specifically gaming) performance on the 15-inch Pro, given that the 13-inch's anemic GPU should have been enough of a 'don't bother'.

    I want a Macbook but I want to game. I'm ok with 4-odd hours of battery life under Windows and I might get used to the funky fn+backspace to delete but I really don't want a rude shock when it comes to gaming.

    Can anybody tell me whether the base 15-inch model will handle games under Win7 without killing itself?

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