Raja and I have been working on a Holiday Guide the past couple of weeks and hopefully we will complete it this week. Our emphasis has been on finding components that offer a great bang for the buck even though they might not be the absolute best in their class. While we will offer our opinions on what is best in class, our focus has been on balanced performance, support, and features versus cost. A really good example is the ASRock X58 and P55 Extreme boards that offer a great set of features and performance for excellent pricing in each category. While they will not satisfy the needs of extreme overclockers, for the other 98% of us, they offer a really great value. Just like the Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3P, MSI 790FX-GD70, and ASUS M4A77TD Pro have in their respective categories.

That said, there are a lot of great choices currently in the lower end market, especially in the AMD 785G camp. The 785G boards are just terrific values for building a SOHO centric platform that will be primarily used for office applications, Internet, communications, and casual gaming. This is especially true when paired up with an Athlon II based processor. Really, current Intel S775 processors in the sub $100 market teamed with a G41 based board just do not have what it takes to compete with the AMD products in this price sector. Intel has a competitive answer coming early next year, but until then AMD is the wise choice.

J&W is one of our favorite second tier suppliers and they have a winner in the 785G market with their new JW-A785GMT-Extreme board. This product compares very favorably with the Gigabyte and ASUS 785G offerings and actually makes for a great SFF gaming platform for those who just use a single graphics card. Our testing to date with a Phenom II X4 965BE and AMD HD 5850 leads us to believe this a great combination for the gamer centric user on a budget or as an all around gaming/media center with a HD 5770 and Athlon II X2 550BE.

The JW-A785GMT-Extreme features a great five-phase PWM design that fully supports 140W processors, Realtek ALC 888 8-channel HD audio, Realtek RTL8111D Gigabit LAN, IEEE-1394a via the JMicron JMB381 chipset, 12 USB 2.0 ports, HDMI/DVI/VGA output, 16GB DDR3 support, six SATA 3G ports via the SB710, and on-board graphics capability thanks to the update HD 4200 IG engine with full DX10.1 and UVD 2.0 support. J&W also throws in 128MB of DDR3 side port memory. There are three fan headers, with the CPU fan header having speed and temperature settings.


The layout of the board is very good and includes an LED Debug display along with power on and reset buttons.





Initial performance ranks right with the Gigabyte and ASUS 785G boards when it comes to overclocking. Our results with the 965BE were superb as the board allowed stock voltage overclocks to 3.87GHz with our GSkill Ripjaws DDR3-1600 4GB C8 kit reaching DDR3-1720 at 9-9-9-24 2T timings.

Bumping up the CPU VID to 1.43V resulted in 24/7 stable 4.07GHz clocks under Windows 7 64-bit with NB speeds at 2.86GHz, something we have not been able to do under a 64-bit operating system until now. The BIOS is geared for the overclocker with significant settings available for memory and voltage tuning. That said, memory timings are not as aggressive past 1600 as the Gigabyte or ASUS boards but this board typically clocked our CPU about 70MHz higher at like voltage settings. We will take a further look at this board in the near future but for now, anyone looking for a very high quality 785G motherboard should place the JW-A785GMT-Extreme at the top of their list.


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  • P4spooky - Tuesday, December 1, 2009 - link

    I agree - many "promised roundups" at AT never seems to materialize. 785, P55 to state a few. After sales support is important especially if you use machines for work/business. For this reason I have stayed with Asus who have excellent support in the US.
  • haplo602 - Wednesday, December 2, 2009 - link

    well there were a couple of P55 articles and single mobo reviews. but after the initial 785G article there was NONE, ZERO, NULL 785G articles. this blog post is the first in monnths I can remember.
  • zipzoomflyhigh - Wednesday, December 2, 2009 - link

    If there's already several floating around the internet, why does Anandtech need to do a review too?
  • mindless1 - Friday, December 4, 2009 - link

    Because when the same 'site does the review, same reviewer(s), there is some consistency in it, the context of experience with other boards, and why wouldn't AT want to review something that brings readers here instead of them going off to another 'site?

    J&W though, I don't care so much whether the product exists if there's nowhere to buy it, nor would I pay a premium for an off-brand mATX board even if it looks cheap compared to some w/intel chipsets and there is limited support for it. Then again fair is fair, if they don't sell them in the US you wouldn't expect a US support team either.
  • haplo602 - Thursday, December 3, 2009 - link

    becasue they might actualy pick different models than those already reviewed ?
  • tyaiyama - Tuesday, December 1, 2009 - link

    This will be my 1st experience with J&W. But considering even first tier MSI has very poor support in the US this year, I am more than willing to go for this Extreme. VRM design is awesome for this class of product. I know it is marketed almost the most expensive one in this class. I live in Japan now, and the following are contenders with yen price attached. The only demerit is its form factor being mATX, and I know they will ship ATX version soon.
    BIOSTAR TA785G3 7,125
    ASRock M3A785GMH/128M 7,980
    M3A785GXH/128M 8,980
    Asus M4A785TD-M EVO 9,930
    M4A785TD-V EVO 10,530
    GigByt GA-MA785GPMT-UD2H Rev.1.0 10,271
    GA-MA785GT-UD3H Rev.1.0 10,280
    MSI 785GM-E65 10,560
    J&W JW-A785GMT Extreme 10,974
  • MoonMouse - Tuesday, December 1, 2009 - link

    Nice board but where to buy? Also the RipJaw link points to a DDR3-1333 CL8 @ 1.5V kit...
  • Visual - Tuesday, December 1, 2009 - link

    I remember there was some fuss with that chipset at launch, but I've not kept track if it is resolved or not...

    Does multi-channel audio over HDMI or DVI work?
    Are the DVI and HDMI ports usable together, or does the VGA port always need to be used in a two-monitor setup?
  • nemer - Tuesday, December 1, 2009 - link

    I do not think we have something like Athlon II 550 be...
  • jdparker520 - Monday, November 30, 2009 - link

    Is this product sold in US?

    It's not on newegg, google comes up with nothing but this site and a bunch of sites in another language, and the manufacturer's site doesn't sell them directly.

    Cool board, butt how do I get one?

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