10.2: Crossfire Profiles, DisplayPort Audio, & Crossfire Rearchitecture

The last big feature coming with the 10.2 drivers is a change to how AMD profiles games for Crossfire support. Currently the profiles are integrated in to AMD’s drivers, meaning AMD has to produce a complete hotfix driver whenever they need to publish what’s otherwise a minor profile update to enable Crossfire support for a game. This is clumsy for the user (it’s 110MB+), a source of extra work for AMD, and a nuisance for all parties since it means it can take quite some time before Crossfire support gets enabled on a game.

For 10.2, AMD is finally stepping up to the plate and separating the Crossfire profiles from the drivers. The profiles are now stored in a separate encrypted file (atiapfxx.blb) that can easily be updated whenever AMD needs to publish a new set of profiles. AMD will now be able to offer a small executable download that will install the latest profile set, and can update that out-of-band without interfering with driver releases and development.

For NVIDIA users, this is nothing new. NVIDIA has offered the same feature for quite some time, so this brings AMD up to parity with NVIDIA on the matter.  The recently released Mass Effect 2 is a great example of this: NVIDIA was able to publish a half-megabyte profile update, while AMD had to publish a 112MB Catalyst hotfix. With profile support, AMD will now be able to publish small (and potentially frequent) profile updates just like NVIDIA has been doing.


The files in a Catalyst profile update

There is still going to be one difference between the two companies however, and that’s letting end-users meddle with profiles. NVIDIA has allowed end-users to write and edit profiles for games (including through the use of tools like nHancer) while AMD has not. This will not be changing – AMD users will still not be able to write their own profiles.

When we asked Terry about this at CES, he said that AMD’s position is that they believe users are better off with professionally created and validated profiles, rather than enthusiast created profiles that may end up having problems. We don’t disagree with the logic of this statement, but as enthusiasts we have never been above getting our hands dirty and/or creating problems in the process of solving them (it’s half the fun!). AMD absolutely needs to publish profiles for games, but we still want to see AMD relinquish some of their control of game profiles so that enthusiasts have the ability to play with them if they desire.

To that end, we did some digging and at least in the 10.3 driver set being sampled to us, AMD includes a utility called atiapfxx that can read and write the encrypted files that store profiles. However in spite of its proclaimed ability to decrypt AMD’s profiles, we have been unable to successfully do so as the tool keeps crashing. Furthermore AMD declined to provide us with any kind of sample of what an unencrypted profile (which would be in XML form) would look like, so we don’t even know quite what’s in a profile. Finally, it looks like AMD is signing the profiles with a key (not included) judging from the command-line options in the utility. So in spite of having moved profiles out of the drivers, it doesn’t look like enthusiasts are any closer to getting to write profiles for AMD’s drivers.

Moving on, we have the addition of DisplayPort Audio to AMD’s drivers. This is another 10.2 feature that originally showed up in the 9.12 hotfix drivers, so its inclusion here should come as no surprise. The DisplayPort standard allows for audio to be transmitted along-side the video stream, and while AMD’s hardware has supported it, it’s only finally being enabled in the drivers. Right now it’s a forward-looking feature – since DisplayPort isn’t meant to replace HDMI for TV connections, it’s only used by a few monitors that have some kind of integrated audio capabilities such as built-in speakers or a built-in headphone jack, such as Dell’s U2410.

Finally, AMD has been doing some work to rearchitect how Crossfire works at the driver level, and those changes are in the 10.2 drivers. AMD has moved some Crossfire code from the 3D driver to a separate driver component as a forward-looking gesture. By doing this, AMD is getting the Catalyst drivers ready for future products such as Llano, AMD’s first CPU/GPU Fuzion product. The ultimate purpose is going to be to allow them to better combine IGP and discrete GPUs, much like Hybrid Crossfire did on AMD’s earlier products but with a greater tolerance for feature differences. Bear in particular mind that AMD’s next IGP (before Fuzion) will be DX10.1 based, while AMD’s current GPUs are DX11 based.


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  • Blahman - Wednesday, February 17, 2010 - link

    From what I've read, the i5 version of the HP Envy 15 does have switchable graphics.
  • Aircraft123 - Thursday, February 18, 2010 - link

    no the HP Envy 15 does not have switchable graphics. Something to do with the HM55 vs PM55 chipset (one supports it one doesn't).

    I know it won't b/c I have one.
  • tntomek - Wednesday, February 17, 2010 - link

    Sadly it does not. HP originally had rumors about this but have since turned out to be false.
  • FlyTexas - Wednesday, February 17, 2010 - link

    AMD driver quality is one reason why my gaming rig continues to have a nVidia card in it. I have ATI cards in my secondary machines, but don't play games on them. nVidia simply makes better drivers than AMD does.
  • Tempered81 - Wednesday, February 17, 2010 - link

    Hi Ryan,

    Nice article on the new drivers. Looking forward to 10.3 bezel management.

    I really wanted to point out that your Farcry2 results in the 5970 review were maxed at 75 because of Vsync & not CPU limit.
  • ATWindsor - Wednesday, February 17, 2010 - link

    Have they fixed the audio-droput-bug over HDMI? THat is the most critical bug on the 5-series drivers today IMHO.
  • n00bxqb - Wednesday, February 17, 2010 - link

    Really ? Worse than the Adobe Flash crash bug ?
  • ATWindsor - Wednesday, February 17, 2010 - link

    Well, I guess its a matter of perspective, that at least is downgradable, audio-dropouts are not, at least not guaranteed. Not having useful sound is a showstopper if you use hdmu.
  • velis - Wednesday, February 17, 2010 - link

    While ATI drivers are steadily improving, they still lack a lot in comparison to Nvidia's. AMD really should try harder with this.

    Currently, these are the absolute musts IMHO:
    1. OpenCL drivers!!!! Come on AMD. NV is beating your sorry ass for years now. First they had cuda, you had nothing. Now they also have OpenCL and you still have nothing. Do something about this already.
    2. Per game (application) quality settings in CCC (might even have that, but I just can't find them) + editable CF profiles. It's not like it's hard to do, right?
    3. OpenCL drivers!!!
    4. A tree view of all available options in CCC. There used to be a tree view, now there isn't any more. It's ridiculous how many clicks it takes to set one preference when all the groups could be plainly listed on the left side of CCC window.
    5. OpenCL drivers.
    6. What's with the bloat? Reduce drivers size and CCC memory footprint. Especially CCC. It's just a few dialogs bunched together. Why on earth does it have to use a gazillion MB of my RAM?
    7. Did I mention OpenCL drivers?
  • leexgx - Thursday, February 18, 2010 - link

    i love them to bring back Tree view i really hate CCC when under vista or 7 but they still do tree view for XP, so why cant they make an classic mode that every one wants to use

    OpenCL must be in the drivers as its not at the moment, Direct compute, CUDA, Physx, and Open CL you get when your with Nvidia Drivers, ATI need to catch up

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