10.2: Crossfire Profiles, DisplayPort Audio, & Crossfire Rearchitecture

The last big feature coming with the 10.2 drivers is a change to how AMD profiles games for Crossfire support. Currently the profiles are integrated in to AMD’s drivers, meaning AMD has to produce a complete hotfix driver whenever they need to publish what’s otherwise a minor profile update to enable Crossfire support for a game. This is clumsy for the user (it’s 110MB+), a source of extra work for AMD, and a nuisance for all parties since it means it can take quite some time before Crossfire support gets enabled on a game.

For 10.2, AMD is finally stepping up to the plate and separating the Crossfire profiles from the drivers. The profiles are now stored in a separate encrypted file (atiapfxx.blb) that can easily be updated whenever AMD needs to publish a new set of profiles. AMD will now be able to offer a small executable download that will install the latest profile set, and can update that out-of-band without interfering with driver releases and development.

For NVIDIA users, this is nothing new. NVIDIA has offered the same feature for quite some time, so this brings AMD up to parity with NVIDIA on the matter.  The recently released Mass Effect 2 is a great example of this: NVIDIA was able to publish a half-megabyte profile update, while AMD had to publish a 112MB Catalyst hotfix. With profile support, AMD will now be able to publish small (and potentially frequent) profile updates just like NVIDIA has been doing.


The files in a Catalyst profile update

There is still going to be one difference between the two companies however, and that’s letting end-users meddle with profiles. NVIDIA has allowed end-users to write and edit profiles for games (including through the use of tools like nHancer) while AMD has not. This will not be changing – AMD users will still not be able to write their own profiles.

When we asked Terry about this at CES, he said that AMD’s position is that they believe users are better off with professionally created and validated profiles, rather than enthusiast created profiles that may end up having problems. We don’t disagree with the logic of this statement, but as enthusiasts we have never been above getting our hands dirty and/or creating problems in the process of solving them (it’s half the fun!). AMD absolutely needs to publish profiles for games, but we still want to see AMD relinquish some of their control of game profiles so that enthusiasts have the ability to play with them if they desire.

To that end, we did some digging and at least in the 10.3 driver set being sampled to us, AMD includes a utility called atiapfxx that can read and write the encrypted files that store profiles. However in spite of its proclaimed ability to decrypt AMD’s profiles, we have been unable to successfully do so as the tool keeps crashing. Furthermore AMD declined to provide us with any kind of sample of what an unencrypted profile (which would be in XML form) would look like, so we don’t even know quite what’s in a profile. Finally, it looks like AMD is signing the profiles with a key (not included) judging from the command-line options in the utility. So in spite of having moved profiles out of the drivers, it doesn’t look like enthusiasts are any closer to getting to write profiles for AMD’s drivers.

Moving on, we have the addition of DisplayPort Audio to AMD’s drivers. This is another 10.2 feature that originally showed up in the 9.12 hotfix drivers, so its inclusion here should come as no surprise. The DisplayPort standard allows for audio to be transmitted along-side the video stream, and while AMD’s hardware has supported it, it’s only finally being enabled in the drivers. Right now it’s a forward-looking feature – since DisplayPort isn’t meant to replace HDMI for TV connections, it’s only used by a few monitors that have some kind of integrated audio capabilities such as built-in speakers or a built-in headphone jack, such as Dell’s U2410.

Finally, AMD has been doing some work to rearchitect how Crossfire works at the driver level, and those changes are in the 10.2 drivers. AMD has moved some Crossfire code from the 3D driver to a separate driver component as a forward-looking gesture. By doing this, AMD is getting the Catalyst drivers ready for future products such as Llano, AMD’s first CPU/GPU Fuzion product. The ultimate purpose is going to be to allow them to better combine IGP and discrete GPUs, much like Hybrid Crossfire did on AMD’s earlier products but with a greater tolerance for feature differences. Bear in particular mind that AMD’s next IGP (before Fuzion) will be DX10.1 based, while AMD’s current GPUs are DX11 based.


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  • bhaberle - Wednesday, February 17, 2010 - link

    I found a download for ATI Catalyst 10.2, and the release notes...

    http://www.geekmontage.com/ati-catalyst-10-2-downl...">http://www.geekmontage.com/ati-catalyst-10-2-downl...

  • BelardA - Wednesday, February 17, 2010 - link

    2D performance under Windows is horrible.

    Older cards and even something as weak as intels GMA 4500 is better at AERO than a 5870 card.
  • Stan Zaske - Wednesday, February 17, 2010 - link

    Good article explaining new features, except it seems clear that being miffed about your communication with AMD over the years clearly shows. This is a MAJOR driver update and Eyefinity is the greatest feature to come along for gamers since Nvidia released Riva 128 with the first onboard 3d hardware. Chill out dudes!
  • jamadaia - Wednesday, February 17, 2010 - link

    Any news or at least indication that there is possibility of better hybrid crossfire support on IGPs.
    Am thinking of the possibilities, if the HD4200, forthcoming HD4290 and Fusion IGPs could have more options as to what they can be paired with.
    Not expecting the world, but a bit more options like pairing my 785G IGP (HD4200) with something better than a HD3470.
    Before anyone says it I know it is not a n ideal thing to crossfire such IGPs, but I like the idea of having a small simple, lower power GPU running 90% of the time and then having a secondary modestly powerful discrete GPU kick in when i occasionally play games the rest of the 10% of time.
    And with the on board IGP clocked up, a free say even a modest 10% - %20 boost to the discrete GPU is surely not a bad thing?
  • iamezza - Thursday, February 18, 2010 - link

    When the performance delta between the onboard and discrete graphics becomes too large, it becomes near impossible to gain any benefit from the extra 10-20% of theoretical performance boost the IGP could provide. In most instances performance will actually go down.
  • legoman666 - Wednesday, February 17, 2010 - link

    Hook us up with a link to the 10.3 beta, Jared. ;) They have the two features I want most: bezel management and per monitor color profiles in eyefinity.
  • AznBoi36 - Wednesday, February 17, 2010 - link

    Now we just need support for mixed monitor setups.

    I would love to flank my two DELL 2007FPs in portrait mode with my DELL 3007WFP-HC centering them.
  • BernardP - Wednesday, February 17, 2010 - link

    Despite ATI's current lead in graphics card, I can't buy their product because ATI drivers don't allow creation and scaling of custom resolutions. With NVidia drivers, I can instantly create and scale any custom resolution. With ATI, I am stuck with default resolutions on my monitor's .INF file, or I can try to fiddle with Powerstrip.

    I'm currently running my 24-inch widescreen @ 1536x960: much easier on the eyes. Try to get this resolution with an ATI card.

    Please ATI, give me this feature, and I will switch on my next upgrade.
  • leexgx - Thursday, February 18, 2010 - link

    set your monitor to 1920x1080 (or what ever your default monitor settings are) use the DPI option to 125% or 150% (125% is more then enough for short sited people)
  • BernardP - Thursday, February 18, 2010 - link

    Wait until you get to be my age and start squinting at microscopic 1920x1200 icons and fonts ;-)

    Playing with DPI is only a partial fix and doesn't work with all apps, or works only partailly in some apps.

    With Nvidia drivers, lower-than-native-resolution scaling is excellent and results are not blurry. No need to even enable Clear Type.

    My point is that ATI doesn't offer this feature.

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