Intel’s Response

Intel wasted no time in responding to the FTC’s suit. In their response, Intel has denied the accusations, and insisted that they have competed “fairly and lawfully,” noting that prices (ASPs) have been declining at a rate faster than any other industry.

Of particular note in Intel’s response is their claim that the FTC’s case “is based largely on claims that the FTC added at the last minute and has not investigated.” This we’re assuming means all of the GPU-related claims. You can read into this several ways, but our take is that Intel is more concerned with the GPU-related claims than the CPU-related claims at this moment.

Finally, Intel is understandably annoyed that this even reached the lawsuit stage. As we mentioned before Intel was already in settlement talks with the FTC, and believes that the issue should have been resolved there. In the failure of these talks, Intel has cited that the FTC “insisted on unprecedented remedies – including the restrictions on lawful price competition and enforcement of intellectual property rights set forth in the complaint.” As the FTC would not back down on their requested remedies and Intel would not accept them, this is what has lead to the case moving on to a lawsuit.

What the FTC Wants

So what does the FTC want? For one thing, not money. In their claims and requested remedies, they have not asked for any kind of fine, but rather are focusing exclusively on enforcing changes in the way Intel conducts business. This means their remedies are entirely corrective, rather than being a mix of corrective and punitive remedies such as what the EU has gone for.


What the FTC wants for Christmas: For Intel to license DMI

For their corrective remedies, here is what the FTC wants:

  1. For Intel to stop doing all of the things mentioned above.
  2. Intel cannot require OEMs to purchase only Intel CPUs and GPUs, purchase them in specific quantities, or to not purchase competitors GPUs and CPUs. This is effectively a stab at the rebates Intel has been offering for bulk purchasing, and the advertising help Intel has been offering to bulk purchasers.
  3. To stop prioritizing CPU shipments to loyal OEMs.
  4. To stop withholding technical support from disloyal OEMs.
  5. For Intel to be disallowed from producing/distributing any software or hardware that unreasonably excludes or inhibits the performance of competitors’ GPUs and CPUs.
  6. To stop selling things below cost. The FTC is defining this as being the average variable cost plus a “contribution to Intel’s fixed sunk costs in an appropriate multiple of that average variable cost.”
  7. For Intel to do a few different things about the versions of their compiler that put AMD at a disadvantage (which the FTC is calling the Defective Compiler): offer a substitute compiler to customers for free that is not a Defective Compiler, or to compensate customers in switching to another compiler, to provide notice to software buyers of products compiled using the Defective Compiler that they may need to replace their software.
  8. To stop Intel from making misleading statements.
  9. To prevent Intel from coercing benchmark organizations into adopting misleading benchmarks.
  10. For Intel to license the QPI and DMI buses to 3rd party chipset manufacturers.
  11. For Intel to not block the Global Foundries deal (AMD and Intel already settled this) or any similar deal that VIA might make.
  12. For Intel to stop badmouthing competing products unless they have solid scientific evidence.
  13. For Intel to foot the bill for the independent organization that will monitor this.

It’s a long list, but there’s nothing in it that’s particularly surprising. The FTC’s ultimate goal is to get Intel to stop engaging in all of the anti-competitive actions they have been engaging in for the last decade, and to have them directly monitored for an indefinite period of time in the future to make sure they do not resume these actions.

On an interesting note, the FTC chose an unusual way to go about this suit. Without getting into the nitty-gritty of anti-trust laws, the FTC has multiple sections of the FTC act to charge violators under. Normally when they engage in a lawsuit, they charge them under Section 2, which allows for harmed consumers to sue violators in private for triple damages. The FTC has decided that it’s in the best interest of everyone to not open Intel to that kind of liability or to take the risk that they’ll lose the suit based on that kind of liability, and instead charge them under Section 5. The big difference between the sections is that a Section 5 violation only leaves Intel open to the damages caused by their actions, and not to triple that price tag. Overall the use of Section 5 is very rare compared to Section 2, but the use of it is growing according to the FTC.

At this point we do not have any idea what the price tag would be on damages for Intel if they were to lose this suit, but it’s a reasonable expectation that it won’t be cheap, going into the billions of dollars. Triple damages would make that even higher. As triple damages were established as a punitive solution, this is consistent with the FTC’s position that they are not trying to enact a punitive remedy upon Intel.

Conclusion

So when does this battle royale kick-off? Not for a while, it seems. The case is currently scheduled to go before a judge on Wednesday, September 15th of 2010, which is 9 months from now. Even if it were to start on time (it likely won’t), a ruling would take an equally long time. It may be 2012 before the case is ruled on, later if the case starts late.

In the meantime, there are the positions of NVIDIA, Intel, and AMD to consider. Despite the FTC’s immediate concerns, with the recent cancelation of Larrabee Prime, Intel probably isn’t the risk to the GPU market that the FTC believes they are. The question will be what Intel will be announcing in 2010 as the successor to Larrabee Prime, and what actions they may be taking. It’s not in their best interests with this case to engage in anything that might be seen as disparaging of AMD or NVIDIA GPUs, which in turn may influence Intel’s actions here.

As for AMD, for them this entire matter is largely settled when it comes to CPUs. Their exposure on the GPU side is a bit more nebulous – they aren’t going to make integrated GPUs for Intel processors, so their exposure is in the smaller discrete GPU market. Without a better idea of what the FTC is accusing Intel of when it comes to discrete GPUs, it’s hard to say what the impact of this is. If this stops Intel’s anti-GPGPU efforts however, then it’s going to be good news for AMD’s efforts in that field.


Fermi: Intel's greatest fear?

And finally there’s NVIDIA. NVIDIA has been on a crash-course with Intel for some time now, and they would have it no other way. For NVIDIA this has been a very good month: first Larrabee Prime gets canceled, and now the FTC is going to fight Intel in court over several issues that effectively has the FTC fighting Intel on NVIDIA’s behalf. This could go a very long way in boosting NVIDIA’s GPGPU efforts with Fermi, not to mention the fact that the IGP chipset business has been quite good to NVIDIA lately and is something they would like to continue. This suit could come quite close to defanging Intel from NVIDIA’s perspective.

On a long-term perspective, we’re left wondering where this is going to leave the entire market when it comes to GPU/CPU integration. Both AMD and Intel have been pushing it, with Intel preparing CPUs with both on-chip and on-die GPUs. Could a successful FTC suit put a stop to this Fusion for Intel? Will this slow down or stop GPU/CPU integration for the entire market, and greatly benefit CPU-less NVIDIA in the process? The outcome of this case could very well have an impact greater than just stopping any anti-competitive actions Intel is engaging in, so it’s going to be something we’ll be keeping a very close eye on.

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  • Scali - Friday, December 18, 2009 - link

    Intel didn't license the x86 design to AMD at all.
    AMD manufactured Intel's designs as a second source, but AMD had no rights to the design at all.
    It's no different from AMD having their CPUs manufactured by GlobalFoundries and Chartered, or AMD/nVidia having their GPUs manufactured by TSMC.

    The issue with the 386 was that Intel had never used any second source at all (by then there were enough clones on the market that IBM could no longer make any demands). AMD tried to reverse-engineer the 386 and make their own clone. The court actually DIDN'T rule that AMD was covered by the license agreement. One major problem was the copyright that Intel had on the microcode. However, since x86 became such an important architecture, the court decided to have Intel license it anyway. But AMD did NOT win the claim that they had the right to the x86 architecture based on the earlier second-source contracts.
    This is why it took so long to get a ruling in the court, and why an all-new x86 cross-licensing contract had to be drawn up (which would never be required if AMD was already covered, would it?).

    I'd like to add that I'm getting pretty tired of people like you, with comments like 'your dreaming'. You don't even seem to grasp basic English grammar, and you obviously don't know the facts. Yet you try to 'correct' someone who does know what he's talking about, and do it in a patronizing way.
  • Griswold - Thursday, December 17, 2009 - link

    Why do you people think that all the problems intel is facing would just go away when they struck that deal with AMD? They broke laws and in the end cheated not only AMD but mostly you, the customers.

    You cant undo that by paying some cash to AMD and settle patent disputes. That is what the FTC is for. They will be hard on intels ass and it is clear to me that they will find alot of rotten fish, just like the south korean authorities did and recently the EU trade commision.

    I'm an intel shareholder. I would be happy if intel was not guilty. But they're not, I'm sure of that. And I'll have to keep an eye on the situation as a shareholder. My investment was not affected after the EU found intel guilty, mostly because everyone expected it and knew Intel guilty. I wonder if the same will hold true once the FTC fines Intel in the future...

  • uibo - Thursday, December 17, 2009 - link

    What does the I/F stand for on the last image? Interface?
  • thebeastie - Wednesday, December 16, 2009 - link

    Even if you want to live in dream land and believe that Intel never did things unfair to AMD in the past it is even impossible to see that Intel are being complete pricks with NVidia and x58 MB chipsets.
    If NVidia were able to make MB chipsets for x58 I am sure we would have some cool new stuff like SATA3 already here and more MB choices and cheaper MBs on top.

    You can argue about specifics until the Jesus returns but the reality is Intel need to be king hit and need to take it in the backside for once and just play a bit more fair and reasonable.

    Intel has always been in a very unique business position to just about any other company in the world and they have fully exploited it in every means possible especially via laws and smart lawyers that wouldn't normally have such good position due to the unique nature of CPUs.
    I am sure suing them is a difficult task but I fully support it and it must be done.

  • Orangutan2 - Thursday, December 17, 2009 - link

    Word, bring in nVidia chipset competition.

  • - Thursday, December 17, 2009 - link

    Can anyone say Standards-
    Intel playing on an level playing field?? Intel relying on tech alone??
    yeah, I know, most void of the knowledge of history would say -"but Intel has always made the better processor"- therein lies the rub

    (a time line of events around AMD's Opteron that lead to the FTC's decision)

    In 2004 AMD produced the first X86 dual core server procrssor, in 2005 Intel was the first to ship their dual core

    http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=2743">http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=2743
    --------
    To sleep: perchance to dream
    ------
    Intel First to Ship Dual Core
    .........Dell announced it would be one of the first PC makers to ship Intel's new dual core Pentium Extreme. .....prices starting at around $3,000. ...

    http://www.internetnews.com/ent-news/article.php/3...">http://www.internetnews.com/ent-news/article.php/3...
    --------------
    Workstation Processors Duel: AMD Opteron against Intel Xeon
    [12/21/2005 08:44 PM | CPU]
    by Ilya Gavrichenkov
    ..... It is a fact that AMD is currently the technological leader and has been such for quite a while already. ..
    http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/opter...">http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/opter...
    -------------
    Something is rotten in the state of Denmark
    ------------
    May 18, 2006 2:00 PM PDT
    Dell opts for AMD's Opteron
    By Tom Krazit , Michael Kanellos and Ina Fried
    Staff Writers, CNET News

    Dell has agreed to use Advanced Micro Devices' Opteron chip- ending a long-standing policy of sticking exclusively with Intel. . ...........

    http://news.cnet.com/Dell-opts-for-AMDs-Opteron/21...">http://news.cnet.com/Dell-opts-for-AMDs-Opteron/21...
    ____________
    AMD Files Antitrust Complaint Against Intel In U.S. Federal District Court
    – Intel’s Illegal Acts Inflate Computer Prices and Limit Choices for Businesses and Consumers –

    http://www.amd.com/us-en/Corporate/VirtualPressRoo...">http://www.amd.com/us-en/Corporate/VirtualPressRoo...
    -------------
    Find out the cause of this effect,
    Or rather say, the cause of this defect,
    For this effect defective comes by cause

    asH
    So Intel's practice of building a better mouse trap while holding back the competition is over- can they compete on a level playing field? can you teach an old dog new tricks? can Intel make a decent graphics chip?
  • Scali - Friday, December 18, 2009 - link

    I could say standards, but the bottom line is..
    x86, PCI, PCI-e, SATA/AHCI, USB...
    Intel is heavily involved with pretty much all common standards that a modern PC is based on, not just the CPU, but also the chipset technology.

    AMD hasn't done all that much for standards, aside from adding some extensions to Intel's x86 architecture.
  • shotage - Wednesday, December 16, 2009 - link

    Take away the x86 licensing from Intel pure and simple. This needs to happen.
  • wumpus - Thursday, December 17, 2009 - link

    Considering that the Pentium (original) came out more than 17 years ago, any production of the 32-bit x86 has to be considered prior-art (I'm sure they have some sort of other bogus IP protection, but patents would be worthless). MMX should come pretty soon, but you would have to wait for SSE and later. Also note that these are almost certainly "use a pin/bit to change something blindingly obvious" patents, and were probably shotgunned at the patent office until somebody let one through. Don't count on seeing a court invalidate a patent over a FTC complaint, though.

    You would have to get AMD64 from AMD. Of course, it requires SSE-something or other, which you would have to pry out of Intel's cold dead hands.
  • Scali - Thursday, December 17, 2009 - link

    32-bit x86 started with the 386 back in 1985... So building a 32-bit x86 without a license shouldn't be a problem.
    Thing is, you need at least a Pentium II to run a modern version of 32-bit Windows, if I'm not mistaken. They use the new instructionset features such as sysenter and whatnot. And you can't do that without a license.

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