We have come a long way lately in regards to the ability of modern integrated chipsets to perform a variety of tasks well. Not only do they handle current office and even specialized application software with aplomb, the capabilities now on-board allows the same system to be an HTPC powerhouse or even a casual gaming system for the family.

True, a gaming aficionado would never be caught dead with one of these systems, but I bet one might just reside down the hallway as a second system or depending on the motherboard, it might be the central component in a SFF gaming setup. That might sound crazy, but the latest IG based boards offer the same level of BIOS options for overclocking, electrical components, and quality of their more expensive non-IG counterparts, plus significant more options in the uATX form factor.


This brings us to our next subject. It's odd that the first tangible benefits of the ATI acquisition should come in the form of chipsets, but we'll take what we can get. Since AMD acquired ATI and started aggressively pursuing the chipset market, we have seen decreasingly fewer reasons to buy anything but an AMD chipset for an AMD system. Supporting 8-channel LPCM continues to be the only reason to opt for an NVIDIA chipset over AMD's offerings. The tweaks to the UVD engine are nice, particularly the ability to support acceleration of multiple video streams and detail enhancements on the fly.

No one looking to build a PC capable of light or casual gaming will be disappointed either. While we would still like to see better performance out of all integrated graphics chipsets, the 785G is competitive with the rest of the market. It will play games like Sims 3 or even Left 4 Dead at reduced quality settings, and it can do so better than its closest Intel IGP competitor. The only chipset that comes close in gaming performance is the NVIDIA GF9300/9400 series, but those boards are priced anywhere from $25 to $40 more.

Therefore, the comparison to Intel is an inevitable one. The direct price competitor to the 785G is Intel's G41, a horribly crippled and price reduced version of the G45 chipset. You lose PCIe 2.0 and any sort of H.264/VC1 video decoding abilities, all in exchange for a lower price. It just gets worse from a feature viewpoint when combining the ICH7 Southbridge with it. From this perspective, there's just no real reason to pick the G41 platform over a 785G configuration. Intel is resting on its ability to sell crappy chipsets with really good CPUs, and AMD is relying on a great chipset to sell a, well, pretty good CPU as well.

The AMD 785 is simply superior in our opinion and it receives our full endorsement. Now, which motherboard should you decide to purchase is the question we will answer next.

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  • HelToupee - Tuesday, August 4, 2009 - link

    How's Linux driver support for video decoding coming along for AMD? Last I checked, it was supported in the closed drivers, but none of the players support it yet.

    Poor Linux support is a deal breaker for me (and probably 10's of other people ;) )
  • Finally - Wednesday, August 5, 2009 - link

    [quote]Poor Linux support is a deal breaker for me (and probably 10's of other people ;) [/quote]

    If I was Google, I would ask you:

    Did you mean "10 other people"?
  • sprockkets - Tuesday, August 4, 2009 - link

    Same here. Buying a Zotac 9300 ITX board with an Intel chip. VDPAU ftw.
  • mczak - Tuesday, August 4, 2009 - link

    IMHO, the biggest drawback with G41 (and G43) isn't even mentioned - you lose two ram slots (some boards still have 4 but then you can equip all 4 only with single-sided ram, so useless). Hence this limits you for all practical purposes to 4GB (2x2GB) of ram. (The chipset could take 2 4GB modules but for that price you could probably buy 2 G45 boards with 8 2 GB modules...)
  • Spivonious - Tuesday, August 4, 2009 - link

    Some other items...

    The G45 has the X4500HD, the G41 has the X4500. The G41 does not have hardware decoding for blu-ray movies.
  • flipmode - Tuesday, August 4, 2009 - link

    Is that some kind of double negative? Maybe "fewer and fewer" or something? No biggie, it just caught my eye immediately :smile:
  • Sharles - Tuesday, August 4, 2009 - link

    The ICH7 chipset on my motherboard does have 1 PATA channel.
  • Viditor - Tuesday, August 4, 2009 - link

    Agreed...Gary, you need to correct your table at the index. ICH7 has 1 PATA (2 device) connetion.
  • iamezza - Tuesday, August 4, 2009 - link

    There are no graphs showing up on page 5
  • R3MF - Tuesday, August 4, 2009 - link

    AMD are making a lot of fuss about 785G/Tigris supporting their next generation Stream computing initiative (read: OpenCL), would you be able to ask them if they intend to provide this support to the 780G chipset too?

    This is important because the 780G will form the core of 2nd gen ultra-mobile platform previously known as Congo.

    I would be very grateful if you would ask this question.

    Thanks

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