DC Output Stability and Quality








Seeing the stability of the rails like this is somewhat less than expected of a truly stable performance. All rails stay within specs and are therefore fine, but we have seen better results on competing PSUs. Even though the 12V rails don't have as much voltage drop and stay within the 3% regulation, the drop is still quite large. Both smaller rails have a regulation limit of 5%, which is again quite large, and we can see both rails heading towards the lower end of the allowed area of the ATX norm.

As for the ripple measurements, we see quite a bit of fluctuation but everything stays well within specs. At lower loads we see up to 12mV on the 12V rails and it reaches up to 26mV with higher loads. The lower voltage rails deliver really nice and clean voltage with only up to 8mV ripple.

Testing with the Chroma ATE Programmable Load Efficiency and PFC
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  • MrOblivious - Friday, May 9, 2008 - link

    You aren't going to get me to say that, but I will say he must be working in a different environment with different people than what we since Corsair, Seasonic, Enermax, SilverStone, etc have all asked/sent units of lower output to be reviewed. In fact, we have so many requests stacked up on those units that we can not take them all because we can not provide any kind of realistic time table to turn them around for them.

    Don't get me wrong I am all for doing them, but what happens when you throw a party and no one shows up? That is what happens when you do low powered units. Anecdotes of people requesting them can do nothing to change that fact that they get read by fewer people as we see from the page hits which does NO ONE any good as we don't provide the compelling content users want nor the coverage the brand is looking for.

    So to answer your question, why target higher powered units? Its because that is what people want to read about.
  • Christoph Katzer - Friday, May 9, 2008 - link

    Agreed on that. I had several lower rated units before but after showing such a bad performance one manufacturer even refused to send any more of that kind. I do have several FSP models coming soon with 300, 400 and 600 watts. I will also be reviewing OEM models from Seasonic and FSP.

    As much as I would like to test really cheap models I am just stuck with the fact that I am not located in the U.S. and there is simply nobody who would send me all that stuff. I am also interested in seeing what these unit can offer like we have seen at jonnyguru a few month ago. It's just testing for fun since there is nobody really interested in the results. They all blow up when loaded with programmable loads which is the only fun we could offer with such a review.

    I will anyway try to have more units from the lower and medium range in the future but there will be again a few higher models since I still have several 850-1000W units here...
  • Bozo Galora - Wednesday, May 7, 2008 - link

    Note to all PSU marketing dep'ts:
    the day when people will buy a psu with a rats nest of cables puking out the back is slowly but surely fading away

    the graphs are some of the worst in recent reviews.
    that they would send this thing out as an exclusive first look unit for testing on AT (on a chroma no less) is itself a bit scary

    of course, as always, we will soon see an update to the review in a week or two that will report "the voltage drop prob has been fixed - was just a bad run of a certain component"
  • Stele - Friday, May 9, 2008 - link

    To an extent I agree with you. Nevertheless, there are pros and cons to modular power supplies. The most obvious con is the fact that modular power supplies introduce one more connection between the PSU's PCB and the connectors at the other end - with all the attendant issues that these have compared to non-modular power supplies, especially increased manufacturing costs and connection resistance, as well as connector reliability issues (a loose connection carrying 200VA is very bad news).

    Having said that, it is possible to greatly minimise the impact of such effects; the best thing manufacturers could do is to design and employ robust and rugged connectors with large conductor contact areas - plenty of connector manufacturers with plenty of experience in mission-critical and/or industrial-grade applications out there.

    However, that means even higher costs. This would be no big deal in a world where money was no object, but in reality, in order to compete at a given price point this may lead to corners being cut where it really matters - the stuff inside the PSU, and the resulting performance, life expectancy and stability. Those that don't cut the corners end up having brickbats thrown at their naturally high prices.

    Of course there're PSUs that are modular yet offer good performance without asking for your firstborn, but those aren't the overwhelming majority.
    Personally, if I had to choose for a given price range, I'd take better performance/reliability over modular cables anyday.
  • harbin - Wednesday, May 7, 2008 - link

    I've been using the NeoPower series first entered the market. Quiet, solid PSU. Love it to date. Still runs my o/ced Q6600 happily.
  • InternetGeek - Wednesday, May 7, 2008 - link

    I think you guys have it backwards about why antec is better known. Antec is better known for their PSU rather than their cases. ThermalTake is better known for their cases rather than their PSUs.

    In any case, an excellent PSU.
  • cg0def - Thursday, May 8, 2008 - link

    Both Tt and Antec were making cases before they started making PSUs. Only Antec was making cases long before Tt and the Antec cases used to be synonymous with high quality. I'm not sure that is the case anymore since they are terribly overpriced and many of their models still used steel sheets for the construction.
    Anyway what I was saying is that Antec IS famous for their cases and NOT the PSUs and it is only in recent years that they have started making splendid PSUs and slightly shifted their focus. Oh and Tt actually became famous for their coolers ( CPU mostly ) and then extended their product line. There used to be a day when Tt heatsinks were the best you can get ...
  • granulated - Wednesday, May 7, 2008 - link

    LOL.. Some, if not all, of the high end Antec PSU's are actually made by Seasonics !
  • SilthDraeth - Wednesday, May 7, 2008 - link

    LOL

    Give the man a cookie.
  • feelingshorter - Wednesday, May 7, 2008 - link

    Perhaps thats a matter of opinion, but i heard about antec cases first before hearing about their PSU. A lot of people (including me at one point), did not understand the importance of a good PSU, thinking any PSU will do fine. So unless your a person that does research on it specifically, you won't know just by chance. Whereas their cases...well they have a lot of cool cases and friends amongst each other will send links through instant messaging saying "look at this cool case from Antec" more often than messages saying "look at this extremely stable PSU".

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