FAST 2GB DDR Kits - Part 2

by Wesley Fink on January 23, 2006 12:05 AM EST
Final Words

Many seem confused as to whether it is best to use the fast 512MB DDR DIMMs or the now readily available 1GB DIMMs in their Athlon 64 system. Until recently, we advised buyers to go for the fast 512MB DIMMs, since those 2-2-2 timings on the low-latency A64 on-CPU memory controller usually provided better performance than the slower timings of the 1GB DIMMs. Even the comparison of 4 fast 2T Command Rate 512MB DIMMs versus 2 slower 1GB DIMMs at 1T usually showed that the fast 512MB timings more than offset the 2T penalty of 4 DIMMs.

In Part 1 of the 2GB Kit roundup, it was clear that those rules had changed. The new fast 1GB DIMMs were performing nearly as well as the fastest 512MB DIMMs, and this also made the 1T Command Rate advantage of 2 DIMMs real with 2x1GB DIMMs instead of 4x512MB DIMMs. In that Part 1, we concluded that we could now recommend 2GB kits to end-users. These six new 2GB kits reinforce that conviction - 2 GB has arrived as a real choice for the top-performing systems. All nine 2GB kits sporting a pair of 1GB DIMMs performed very well and with complete stability in our benchmarks. If your needs are fast performance at DDR400 to DDR480, then any of the eight kits based on Infineon B die, C die or Micron memory chips will do the job very well. You can make the selection based on price. If your needs extend to overclocking at DDR550 or beyond, the kits based on Infineon C die or Samsung UCCC will meet your needs. That includes kits rated at DDR500/533 from Corsair, Crucial, Mushkin, OCZ and Gigaram. In this group, the Corsair UCCC value RAM does not perform quite as well as the Infineon-based modules, but at a much lower price with outstanding overclocking, the Samsung is still a great choice where price matters.

There is no doubt that the Crucial Ballistix 2GB bit is the best performing 2GB kit that we have ever tested. However, there are serious questions right now about whether you will be able to even buy this 2GB kit. Crucial tells us that the item is out of stock and they may not be bringing the kit back in stock as they concentrate on DDR2 for the upcoming AMD AM2 launch. End users are reporting that Crucial is telling them the product is End-of-Life and is no longer available. It's a real shame that we can't direct you today to where to buy this excellent memory, and it is even more puzzling that Crucial/Micron may be discontinuing the best 2GB kit that we have ever tested. DDR memory will be useful in AMD platforms for at least another year and a half, and the 2GB Crucial kit would have been a wonderful choice for those who do not plan to migrate to DDR2 when AM2 is launched. We don't even know for sure, at this point, how DDR2 will actually perform with the new AM2 processors.

Whatever the logic, we cannot in good conscious reward a Crucial product that you can't actually buy today. If it were still readily available, it would easily garner our Gold Editor's Choice award, but with no real assurances of continued supply, we can only suggest that you check with Crucial to see if they decide to continue this outstanding 2GB Ballistix kit.

Reviewing 2GB kits that you can actually buy, we jointly award our Gold Editors Choice to Mushkin 2GB Redline XP4000 and OCZ PC4000 2x1024 EB Platinum. The OCZ earned our Gold Editors Choice Award in Part 1 of the roundup and its performance still holds up very well against the 2GB kits that you can actually buy. It is slightly faster than Mushkin Redline at the same test speeds, but the differences are not significant, and no more than you would expect as normal variation among the same memory chips. Mushkin Redline overclocks a bit further - to DDR586 compared to OCZ DDR550 - so if highest OC frequencies is your goal, the Mushkin may be a better choice.

Our Silver Editors Choice has more to do with value than performance. Corsair's TWINX2048-4000PT is the only memory in this roundup based on Samsung UCCC memory chips. While the Corsair must run at slower memory timings, the real differnce in performance is fairly small. In the important overclocking area, the Corsair 4000PT is an excellent performer, reaching a stable overclock of DDR580. This is as good as any memory in this roundup and better than almost all the other 2GB kits. With the same overclocking abilities as the best Infineon and only a slight performance penalty from slower timings, the 30-40% price reduction will be an acceptable trade-off for many end-users. For the excellent value and superb overclocking offered by the Corsair TWINX2048-4000PT, we are pleased to award the AnandTech Silver Editors Choice.

We should also mention that Samsung UCCC 2GB kits are available from OCZ and some other Enthusiast memory manufacturers. The OCZ parts are PC4000 Gold and PC4000GX XTC, and they are about the same price as the Corsair kit. We have not tested either OCZ UCCC, but with the same memory chips, performance should be similar.

All nine of the 2GB DDR kits performed very well in our tests. You should keep in mind, however, that 1GB DIMMs are much more demanding of a memory controller and the motherboard than 512MB parts. For that reason, we would strongly recommend that those who plan high overclocks with 1GB DIMMs use a CPU with a recent Rev. E or better memory controller. The more recent on-chip controllers handle the demands of 1GB memory modules better than older clawhammer controllers.

Last, we will try to answer the question again about whether two 1GB or four 512MB DIMMs are the better choice for Athlon 64 DDR memory. If you plan to install 4GB of memory or upgrade to 4GB in the near future, then 1GB DIMMs are your only choice on current motherboards. There is also no doubt that fast 1GB DIMMs, like eight of the 9 kits tested here, remove the complaint that 1GB DIMMs are slower and will compromise performance compared to fast 512MB DIMMs. There are still a few 512MB DIMMs that top the performance list, but the eight fastest 2GB kits tested here are extremely close to the very best 512MB memory in performance. Even the value Corsair 4000PT was quite close in performance to the other DIMMs and still overclocked well - so price is also no longer a major issue for 1GB DIMMs.

If we were building an AMD Athlon 64 system today, we would definitely choose a 2GB kit for memory. It finally makes sense to choose a 2GB kit and our Editors Choices in this roundup should help in your buying decision. 2GB also makes sense for the OS future. With Vista coming and 2GB, the new memory recommendation for the new OS, you will be set for Vista.

The only real question is whether you really want to invest in 2GB of DDR with AMD DDR2 just around the corner. We don't think that you can possibly lose choosing one of these excellent 2GB kits for your new system build today, but you will need new DDR2 memory for AM2 when it arrives in a few months. What we don't yet know is whether AM2 or the upcoming Intel processors will provide the kind of compelling performance that will make an upgrade to DDR2 a performance enhancing choice for your new system. We look forward to finding answers to this question in the near future.

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  • bigtoe36 - Tuesday, January 24, 2006 - link

    Tom

    The parts are 2x1204, we don't supply single sided CE5 512 kits, infact no one does.
    For the record, 4000eb is 2048mb so 2x1024mb modules.
  • Wesley Fink - Monday, January 23, 2006 - link

    The OCZ we tested is definitely a 2GB kit. I changed the Corsair name in the review since they refer to 2GB kits as TwinX 2048. However I just double-checked their web site and OCZ uses the 1024 to describe the dimm size. In fairness they are officially a 2x1024 kit, so I will update the reference to hopefully clarify what we tested.

    The memory manufacturers all have pretty awful naming schemes for their memory, but OCZ is still one of the most confusing.
  • CCUABIDExORxDIE - Monday, January 23, 2006 - link

    how does crucial not get gold? honestly, go out and try to buy the EB 4000 or the Redline PC4000, you cant cause of Infenions horrible yeilds. so in your mindset, the gold winner should be the UCCC corsair stuff. also where is the Gskill pc4000 and the Mushkin pc4000?? There should have been more UCCC tested and less CE-6.

    just my opinion though.
  • Wesley Fink - Monday, January 23, 2006 - link

    You can not presently buy Crucial any where, and Crucial told us they would not likely have the product available again. Infineon has had problems with consistency since October, but all of the memory manufacturers here assured us the Infineon-based dimms were current products and supply would continue. Some even sent links on where you could buy the Infineon dimms.

    We asked manufacturers to submit their "best" 2GB kit. There was nothing to stop them from submitting both Infineon CE and Samsung UCCC for the roundup. As we found in the review Samsung UCCC is not as fast as Infineon at most speeds, but it does overclock just as well, and it's generally 30% to 40% cheaper. At present Samsung UCCC chips are easier to find, but manufacturers tell us recent Infineon is finally producing better yields - and chips are becoming available again.
  • CCUABIDExORxDIE - Monday, January 23, 2006 - link

    alright...what about this? http://www.chiefvalue.com/app/productdetails.asp?s...">http://www.chiefvalue.com/app/productde....asp?sub... aww a bit of misinformation? thats right
  • ozzimark - Monday, January 23, 2006 - link

    while we're mentioning misinformation.. it was stated that teamgroup can be had at newegg? atm, i'll have to disagree.

    second.. micron chips don't go to just crucial. i have a set of 2x1gb teamgroup in my hands that i need do a review on that use micron chips, and they easily hit 280mhz on a DFI that appears to be having serious VTT stability issues :P
  • Wesley Fink - Monday, January 23, 2006 - link

    We checked with Newegg and Team is not available there. We have removed that comment from the review and asked Team where buyers can buy their memory in the US. We'll post the info when we get an answer.
  • cool - Monday, January 23, 2006 - link

    @Wesley:
    On the "Test Configuration" page, I noticed that you're using the following nForce drivers: "NVIDIA nForce Platform Driver 6.86"
    When will they be released and do they solve the PATA/SATA and nvFirewall issues that are still plaguing nForce4 users?
  • Wesley Fink - Monday, January 23, 2006 - link

    I apologize for the typo. We used the latest release 6.70 on our DFI nF4 SLI. The latest release for AMD X16 is 6.82, and we listed a beta x16 driver rev we had on an x16 machine used for editing.

    The platform driver version has been corrected in the article.
  • PrinceGaz - Monday, January 23, 2006 - link

    Hopefully one day, the nVidia softtware team will pay some attention to its chipset drivers and get these issues with the PATA/SATA drivers, which in v6.70 still have issues on my nForce4 mobo, albeit not so badly as some earlier drivers, but are still unreliable enough for me to revert to the default Windows ones.

    As for the hardware firewall; I'm not even going to consider installing the drivers and software for that given the continued reports it has of causing serious problems. I'd rather let my dual-core processor do the work on one of its cores, which as I use Kerio Personal Firewall would hardly be noticed even in a multi-threaded app as it takes very little CPU time.

    Given the mess nVidia have made of the nForce chipset drivers, and how Microsoft recommend ATI graphics-cards for the Vista betas as their drivers are better; I really do wonder if nVidia who built a good reputation for themselves with rock-solid graphics-card drivers a few years ago have lost the plot. I bought an nForce4 mobo and 6800GT last year, but am increasingly thinking an ATI graphics-card would have been a better choice, and if similarly feature-rich mobos with other chipsets were available then, that any of ATI, VIA, SiS would have been a better choice than nVidia.

    It's sites like this that have over-hyped nVidia mobos since the nForce2 on performance alone that I'm sure contributed to their dominance, and the sorry state of afares we are in with their chipset drivers as there is little competition and can afford to give it low priority.

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