Overall Performance using Winstone 2004

Business Winstone 2004

Business Winstone 2004 tests the following applications in various usage scenarios:
. Microsoft Access 2002
. Microsoft Excel 2002
. Microsoft FrontPage 2002
. Microsoft Outlook 2002
. Microsoft PowerPoint 2002
. Microsoft Project 2002
. Microsoft Word 2002
. Norton AntiVirus Professional Edition 2003
. WinZip 8.1

Business Winstone 2004

The Pentium EE 955 does a little better than the previous generation Extreme Edition, but AMD continues to be the dominant performer here. Presler's 27 cycle L2 cache doesn't exactly help it out here, so it's not much of a surprise.

Multimedia Content Creation Winstone 2004

Multimedia Content Creation Winstone 2004 tests the following applications in various usage scenarios:
. Adobe® Photoshop® 7.0.1
. Adobe® Premiere® 6.50
. Macromedia® Director MX 9.0
. Macromedia® Dreamweaver MX 6.1
. Microsoft® Windows MediaTM Encoder 9 Version 9.00.00.2980
. NewTek's LightWave® 3D 7.5b
. SteinbergTM WaveLabTM 4.0f
All chips were tested with Lightwave set to spawn 4 threads.

Multimedia Content Creation Winstone 2004

Once again, the EE 955 offers a performance improvement over the EE 840, but at best, it is equal to the performance of the Athlon 64 X2 3800+.

Dual Core and Hyper Threading: Detriment or Not? Overall Performance using SYSMark 2004
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  • skunkbuster - Friday, December 30, 2005 - link

    cramitpal is that you?
  • coldpower27 - Friday, December 30, 2005 - link

    This is the Pentium Extreme Edition of course it's price is going to be 999US.

    If you want cheaper Presler cores, wait for the Pentium D 920 to 950 line to com out in Mid January.
  • Betwon - Friday, December 30, 2005 - link

    INQ says Presler 920 will be about 240$.

    It is very interesting that PD820 defeat FX-57 in a SMP game.
  • phaxmohdem - Friday, December 30, 2005 - link

    quote:

    It is pretty much a toss-up at this point, but we'd recommend sticking with AMD for now and re-evaluating Intel's offerings when Conroe arrives.


    Let's recap, the X2 4800+ was ahead in most tests, and at worst could probably be called the 955 EE's equivilent....

    955EE = $999
    4800+ = ~$785

    Yeah, I'd definately recommend "sticking with AMD for now and re-evaluating Intel's offerings when Conroe arrives."

    Did anyone else notice how the lowly 3800+ did better in most gaming scenarios?

    955EE = $999
    3800+ = ~$315

    Tasty :)
  • GhandiInstinct - Friday, December 30, 2005 - link

    LOL, honestly your post is the only necessary post here. It compares and contrats the two perfectly in terms of which is a better buy, given the reader has seen all of the benchmarks in which the 4800 beats the 955EE.

    Intel just can't win because of EGO.
  • Anemone - Friday, December 30, 2005 - link

    Kudos because no matter where you sat personally you seemed to have called the shots fairly. I'd agree with the conclusion as well, that you are either Conroe or A64, that the P4 is an overdue dead end. It performs well, but it is hot and uses lots of electricity to do so. Overclocking wasn't needed because, quite frankly the X2 chips oc too, and you'd find they probably do it better.

    Socket M2 is again, something you "should" wait for if you can, as is Conroe. These are heavy recomendations, you really would be very smart to wait for these two things. Barring that, given the better of two bad options (meaning you have to upgrade now when you should be waiting), AMD is the better choice, partially for the power consumption, partially for the "less of a dead end than a P4" issue.

    Still, heavy, heavy emphasis on "you should wait", as a complete changeover is going on with both AMD and Intel and your ability to perform minor upgrades 1-2 years from now will depend on waiting patiently for a few more months.

    :)
  • JarredWalton - Friday, December 30, 2005 - link

    Socket M2 doesn't appear to be anything special. Why wait 6 months for a 5% performance boost and a RAM change? Just like waiting for Prescott ended up being much ado about nothing, M2 isn't going to be wildly different from today's 939 chips. Get a good socket 939 system with an X2 and SLI, and you should be set for at least 18 months.
  • Calin - Tuesday, January 3, 2006 - link

    I don't find SLI important - except for the possibility to run two top of the line video cards. And increased speed won't come from higher RAM speed - not so much anyway in order to keep you waiting.
    I just wonder how long will the Socket 939 be kept - considering that the value line is the cheaper Socket 754 (cheaper in having a single memory channel, so half as many lines to memory banks). Or if Socket 754 will be abandoned before Socket 939, or if Socket M2/2 (single channel DDR2 memory) will appear.
  • nserra - Friday, December 30, 2005 - link

    Two cores on the same packing is an excellent idea!

    Will amd do that with m2?
    Could lower the dual core price and even at 90nm could put 2 dual core processors on the same packing and build a 4 core processor (fake one, but 4 cores there).
  • ViRGE - Friday, December 30, 2005 - link

    The problem with 2 physical cores is that you're forgoing any sort of on-die communication benefits by doing so. It's certainly cheaper for Intel to make things this way, but it's a poor way to go for performance, as it makes it harder for the cores to quickly send data to each other and share resources. It's certainly a valid solution(especially given how Intel didn't have any inter-core communication even when both cores were on the same die), but ultimately a combined die for inter-core communication is superior for performance and scaling.

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