Memory Options

Memory has been a major part of overclocking since we shifted to locked CPU multipliers back in the Athlon/Pentium III era. With the move to DDR RAM on the Athlon and Pentium 4, it has become even more important. Since all processors other than the Athlon FX chips (and Pentium M) are multiplier locked - at least on the high end of the scale - increasing your CPU clock speed means that you have to increase the system/CPU bus speed. If your default bus speed is 200 MHz and you have a 10X multiplier, you end up with a 2000 MHz processor. Raising the bus speed to 220 MHz would give you a 2200 MHz CPU, but it would also require memory that could run at DDR440 speeds. That's the way it normally works, and so we have unofficial memory speeds of up to PC4400 (DDR550) that allow you to overclock your bus, CPU, and RAM beyond the standard specification.

However, there are alternative methods of overclocking that may not require ultra high speed RAM. High speed RAM generally costs quite a bit more, and if your goal in overclocking is to get higher performance without spending a lot more money, doubling the cost of RAM defeats that purpose. We'll be looking at the impact of using the lower memory ratios in order to keep standard PC3200 at or below DDR400 MHz speeds. This means that you could use any PC3200 memory. There will be some performance loss, but the question is: how much? That's what benchmarks are for...

On the other end of the RAM spectrum, we find the high performance and high cost parts. Yes, you can buy some untested DIMMs with similar ratings to the high performance RAM for less money, but we're more interested in exploring guaranteed RAM speeds in this article, so we won't be taking that route. However, even if you can't reach the RAM speed that you want, our value RAM will serve as a minimum performance metric. At the high end, there are a few major contenders.

First, there's the high performance, high voltage RAM like OCZ VX and Mushkin Redline. (They probably use Winbond CH5 blanks, and we'll just use CH5 to refer to this memory from here on out. We could be wrong on the actual chips used, however.) You'll need a motherboard that can supply up to 3.5V to the RAM to get the most out of such memory, with 2-2-2-6 1T timings possible for as high as DDR533, give or take. You'll also want to get active cooling on the memory if you go this route. The next option is to grab some of the re-released Winbond BH5 DIMMs, which are similar to CH5 in that high voltages allow for 2-2-2-7 1T timings up to DDR500 speeds. The price and performance of these two options are roughly equivalent, with the CH5 generally reaching somewhat higher speeds. The drawback of CH5 is that it also requires at least 3.0V just to run at 2-2-2 timings and DDR400 speeds, where BH5 can do the same with only 2.6V. The final option is to go for the tried-and-true Samsung TCCD (or TCC5) DIMMs. You'll sacrifice some performance and have to lower the timings as RAM speeds increase, but the good news is that you won't need more than 2.80 to 2.90V to reach maximum clock speeds. You can also get TCCD DIMMs up to DDR600 and even beyond, which serves to counterbalance the better timings of BH5/CH5. The cost of Samsung TCCD is roughly the same as the other two choices.

So, which RAM do you choose? There are several factors, and in order to keep the number of benchmarks from rapidly bloating, we only used one type of value RAM and one of the performance RAM options.


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We chose Mushkin PC3200 Value RAM rated for PC3200 operation at 2.5-3-3-8 timings. Command rate is not specified, but our testing generally worked well using 1T. (There were a few tests that required 2T at overclocked speeds, which we'll cover later.) The interesting thing about this RAM is that we can no longer find it online or at Mushkin's site (the site only shows 3-3-3-8 value RAM now), but just about any 2.5-3-3-8 RAM should perform similarly. You can see a picture of the RAM sticker (with timings) above. If you want to try pushing your RAM beyond DDR400, we recommend that you read our Value RAM Roundup for the best recommendations. The Mushkin RAM and test settings that we're using are basically the worst-case scenario as far as value RAM goes - in other words, just about any RAM should be able to match the performance that we achieved.

For our high end RAM, we used what we already had available: OCZ Rev. 2 Platinum (TCCD memory as opposed to the newer TCC5 memory). One of the benefits of this RAM is that it doesn't run as hot as the BH5 and CH5 when overclocked, so active cooling won't be required at maximum clock speeds. Active cooling means more noise from your PC, and while few overclocked systems are truly quiet (without resorting to water cooling), many people will agree that adding more fans to the case isn't really desirable. This doesn't mean that BH5 or CH5 is a bad choice, and in many instances, either would be slightly faster than TCCx RAM.

The final pieces of the overclocking puzzle are the choice of case and power supply. Case selection influences (to a large degree) the number and arrangement of fans that you can use for cooling, though anyone with a bit of skill and a Dremel tool can add extra fans if needed. We'll talk a bit about heat sinks and fans for CPU cooling as well. First, let's start with the power supply, as it is more directly comparable to the components that we've covered so far.

DFI nF4 Infinity Power Supply
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  • Powered by AMD - Monday, October 3, 2005 - link

    Do not forget The Athlon XP 1700+ 1.5Volts, DLT3C, mines is OC from 1467 Stock to 2250 Mhz and pretty cool with an old Thermaltake Blower...
    It can ever reach 2450 Mhz but with 1.8 Volts.
    hey, at 2250 Mhz its a 53% OC too!!
    Great article but it will be useful for me only when I need an Athlon 64 :p
  • donkeycrock - Monday, October 3, 2005 - link

    i noticed that frys is selling x-connect (500 Watts)psu for 25 dollars after rebate. it is extremely heavy, and not many reviews say if they are very good PSU's for overclocking, anybody have knowladge about this PSU.

    thanks
    brad
  • cryptonomicon - Monday, October 3, 2005 - link

    nice article jarred, and you worded the disclaimers perfectly, bravo.

    and its nice to see those ram comparisons. good to see those results on the latest a64 platform and confirm once again that the ram makes only a few percentage points difference, if that. shelling out all your dough on a good GPU, then buying the lowest model venice, a DFI board, and value ram is the way to go.
  • Googer - Monday, October 3, 2005 - link

    http://www2.amd.com/us-en/assets/content_type/Down...">AMD Thermal Grease List PDF
  • RupertS - Wednesday, October 26, 2005 - link

    Interesting, AMD only recommends thermal grease for short term use 'where the heat sink is removed and attached multiple times over a short period'. They definitely do not recommend it for long term use.
  • StriderGT - Monday, October 3, 2005 - link

    Both me, Zebo and many others have clarified long time ago in Anands forum the pointless struggle of purchasing extreme memory parts in Athlon64. Dividers and value ram will do the trick of excellent ocing giving you 95%++ of the performance someone gets with expensive and overvolted ram modules. Nice seeing anandtech come up with an article backing up the threads like this one (http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview.aspx?catid...">http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview...mp;threa...

    PS For those owning MSI Neo3 m/bs -and even the rest- I have created back then an excel calculating the actual memory frequency with the various BIOS settings. Enjoy
    http://www.geocities.com/gtstrider/">http://www.geocities.com/gtstrider/
  • JarredWalton - Monday, October 3, 2005 - link

    Yeah, I've seen quite a few threads around the 'net on this, but AT hadn't covered it very well, and I hoped to get something "official" out there. (None of the enthusiast sites have really covered this that well, as far as I could see.) Since I've been fooling around with various AMD CPU overclocks for a year now, I figured others might like to see the possibilities. High-end, high-cost is well and good for dreams, but like most people I live a bit closer to reality. $200 is about as much as I'm willing to pay for a CPU in most cases.
  • andyc - Monday, October 3, 2005 - link

    So you can basically overclock the 3000 to the same speeds the 3200 can? So it's not even worth it to go with the 3200?
  • JarredWalton - Monday, October 3, 2005 - link

    Well, perhaps. 9x300 requires a better motherboard than 10x270, though most boards than can handle 270 MHz CPU bus speeds will also handle 300 I think. For value overclockers, though, I don't think I'd bother spending the extra $50 on the 3200+, no. Spend it on the GPU instead (if you play games).
  • Mogadon - Monday, October 3, 2005 - link

    Great article Jarred, thanks for putting in all the hard work and time.

    I have one question regarding voltages. As I understand it, you wouldn't recommend running a VCore above 1.65V for a long term overclock. I understand the warnings and possible effects on the CPU with running a high VCore but I wanted to know if this is around the VCore that you would run on, say, your overclocked system?

    The majority of people on the forums here don't really recommend going above 1.55V or 1.6V, i was wondering if you had any comments about this.

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