Display Recommendations

Before we get to the actual display recommendations, we have to say that the end of the CRT era is upon us. No matter how much you like your 21" CRT running at 2048x1536 resolution with a high refresh rate, there's a very good chance that the next major display upgrade that you make will be to an LCD. Why? It's simply a matter of reduced profit margins. In fact, looking at the current CRT landscape, we can see that specifications have fallen off quite a bit in the past few years.

We used to look at 19" models that could run 1600x1200 at 85 Hz or higher, and quality 17" models frequently supported 1600x1200 at 75 Hz. Today, the best new 17" models support 1280x1024 at 67 Hz (which means that you'll run them at 60 Hz or else drop down to 1152x864 to get 75 Hz). 19" models still support 1600x1200 and sometimes higher resolutions, but only at 75 Hz or lower refresh rates. Even the 21" models have diminished in quality. The Mitsubishi Diamond Pro 2070 had a 140 kHz horizontal scan rate, allowing for 2048x1536 at 85 Hz or 1600x1200 at 115 Hz.

Unless you want to buy a refurbished display, you'll have difficulty finding a monitor that can beat those specs now. The NEC FE2111SB has a 115 kHz horizontal scan rate, limiting it to 85 Hz at 1600x1200 or 75 Hz at its maximum 1920x1440 resolution. Competing models are similar in specifications if not worse. In short, though the top CRTs still offer reasonable performance for the price, they're a dying breed. If you love CRTs - particularly the large models - we'd suggest that you try to find a Diamond Pro 2070 or NEC FP2141SB (the NEC model seems to be quite a bit more expensive, but specifications are nearly identical to the 2070). We've found the 2070 for around $650, but quantities are limited and you may not be purchasing a new display.

Unless we see a new CRT that actually boasts better specs than the older models, we're going to move on to recommending LCDs for the Mid-Range and High-End price segments. Prices have dropped to the point where most people will prefer an LCD to a CRT anyway. The displays have a perfectly flat surface and there are no geometry problems - no more worries about trying to adjust the pin-cushioning, convergence, rotation, etc. You also get to deal with a 10- to 20-pound display rather than a 40- to 85-pound display. There are still issues with pixel response times, color reproduction, and contrast ratios, but with CRTs devolving and LCDs improving, we expect that LCDs will dominate the market in the future.


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Mid-Range Display
19" LCD: Hyundai Imagequest L90D+
Price: $350 Shipped

People on a budget might still prefer a good 19" CRT, which can save about $100 on the cost of the display. We prefer working with LCDs, however, and we've selected one of the best LCDs currently available. (Hopefully, we'll get a review of one soon.) You can find cheaper 19" LCDs, but we're interested in quality as well, and the L90D+ delivers. With an advertised 8ms response time, even the worst case gray-to-gray transitions are fast enough to all but eliminate motion blur. The monitor also has a pivot function and reasonable cable management, and of course, it has a DVI connection. It has a standard VGA D-SUB input as well, though we wouldn't recommend using that, and the integrated speakers are present, but they're not very useful. The one major drawback: this is a 6-bit panel, so there is interpolation present to "mimic" 16.2 million colors. It's still the best 19" LCD that you'll find for gaming, however.

If you want alternatives, the Dell 1905FP is also a reasonable option, and sometimes it can be found for under $300. Motion blur is present on the 1905FP, but depending on your sensitivity to such things, it may or may not be useable for gaming. There are quite a few models selling for under $350, but we would stay away from anything with more than a 16ms response time, and DVI-D input is a must for LCDs. We would also try to get a true 8-bit panel rather than one that uses interpolation. That eliminates most of the other options, unfortunately. One thing that we always advise with LCDs is to try the display out in person if at all possible - if you purchase it at a local store, you can verify that there are no dead pixels present before leaving the premises, which may be more important than the savings offered by purchasing online.

Note: We've had several notes in this Guide, but we feel they're all important. The Hyundai L90D+ currently uses a Samsung panel. However, Hyundai could change panel providers at any time if they feel there is a benefit in doing so. The Samsung 915N uses this same panel, and you can now read our review. The L90D+ adds the DVI input we wanted, and hopefully they continue to use this panel.

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High-End Display
20" LCD: Dell 2001FP/2005FPW
Price: About $530

Dell offers both their widescreen and standard 20" diagonal LCDs for around the same price, and while we prefer the 2001FP for computer work, some people like the 16:9 aspect ratio on the 2005FPW more. Gamers will probably have better luck with the 2001FP, although if you look around, there are tweaks to get widescreen support in many games these days. The problem is getting support for the uncommon 1680x1050 resolution of the 2005FPW. If you're not particularly interested in gaming, it's not as big of a concern. Just remember that the actual screen real-estate of the 2001FP is slightly larger than the 2005FPW: 1,920,000 vs. 1,764,000 pixels.

Other than those points, the monitors perform about the same and cost about the same. Note that on the price, we say "about $530" - if you're patient and look around, Dell often comes out with some great rebates that can drop the cost to below $500. Still, $530 is a great deal for such a display. With 16ms advertised response times, most people will be able to play games, watch movies, etc. without noticing too much "motion blur" (i.e. blurriness caused by delays in the pixels switching between varying color levels). If you're really picky about such issues, try before you buy, as even the fastest LCDs don't update as fast as a good CRT. Over time, you'll probably grow accustomed to the LCD display - most of us have, and we really like many of the other benefits that LCDs offer.

We'd like to see some 21" and larger LCDs with good resolutions at an affordable price, but so far, most models above 20" other than the Dell are extremely expensive, offer lesser specs, or both. Dell offers their 24" widescreen 2405FPW with a native resolution of 1920x1200 for around $1200, which is probably the best price that you'll find for specs like that. Dell has become the 800 lbs. gorilla of the LCD market, after all. Most people would love to have such a display, or perhaps even a couple Apple 23" or 30" Cinema Displays, but reality prevents us from actually going that extreme.

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  • CP5670 - Wednesday, May 25, 2005 - link

    You can still get Mitsubishi 2070s (I got a new one for $600 about three weeks ago), although they are out of production and are somewhat hard to find.
  • JarredWalton - Wednesday, May 25, 2005 - link

    44 - Venice and Winchester seem to be the same chip, only with SSE3 enabled on Venice. I don't think it matters much for games right now, but with the difference only being $4 now, go for it. (At the time I wrote this Guide, Winchester retail chips were $20 less than Venice retail chips, which is harder to justify.)

    47 - I've emailed a few people about this, but basically there just aren't any improvements to CRTs coming out these days. You can still find some Dell, HP, etc. monitors that use the same tube as the NEC FE2111SB, and it's a good tube overall. The Mitsubishi 2070 still boasts the best specs I'm aware of (140 kHz horizontal scan rate and 2048x1536 resolution).

    If you want a CRT, by all means get one. The Samsung 997DF is still a decent 19" model for around $210, though it's not perfectly flat. NEC FE991SB are also good, though they cost more than the Samsung. If you can find a discount on a Dell, HP, etc. CRT and it sports an aperture grille, it's probably going to be similar enough to the NEC/Mitsubishi models that you wouldn't notice other than the exterior.

    Personally, I'm just tired of large CRTs, and I've recommended them in so many Guides (without any change) that it's time to move on. I'll continue to mention them, but I don't recommend them anymore for a lot of people.
  • CrimsonChaos - Wednesday, May 25, 2005 - link

    Great guide!

    I was recently considering buying a system inbetween a mid-range and high-end computer. This would have been a tremendous help to me as I started the researching process.

    Just a quick question -- why no PC Power & Cooling power supply for a high-end system? That too expensive even for the biggest enthusiast (aka money-waster)??

    Also, going to add any normal CRT recommendations to the "Display" part?
  • Olaf van der Spek - Wednesday, May 25, 2005 - link

    Re: 16

    > and I feel about the same for audio.

    That's not a very strong argument.

    But because audio is always integrated while video isn't, it's indeed simpler to add one later.
  • ceefka - Wednesday, May 25, 2005 - link

    #43 Reapsy00,

    About every new CPU, mobo/chipset, graphicscard, RAM, LCD/CRT mentioned here has been benched, just not in this same article.

    Also, recommendations here were winners in past benchmarkings before this article.

    You'll even find links to benchmarks in the buyers guide. In my opinion AT has got it nailed pretty good.
  • dmaduram - Wednesday, May 25, 2005 - link

    Kudos to Jarred for such an excellent guide -- it's quite informative!

    Just two quick questions -- first of all, with regard to gaming, is there an advantage in selecting a AMD-Venice core instead of a AMD-Wichester core? I was unsure on what specific applications recieved a boost from Venice's "SSE3" support.

    Secondly, d'you know if there are any disadvantages in purchasing a Venice core instead of the recommended Wichester core? There's only a 4-dollar difference in price on NewEgg, so I was wondering which one I should buy for my gaming box :)
  • Reapsy00 - Wednesday, May 25, 2005 - link

    You see lots of these buyer's guides on different sites, AT should take it further and build the system's and benchmark 'em.
  • Calin - Wednesday, May 25, 2005 - link

    No problem, Tujan
    I wouldn't choose a VIA miniITX platform - the 1GHz processors are quite faster than the older 700-800MHz ones. However, their very size forces them to be niche systems.
    If I would like a computer in my car, a MiniITX would be the best choice. But for a stand alone, I very much prefer upgradable PC technology
  • R3MF - Tuesday, May 24, 2005 - link

    ah well, my new shuttle SN25P with a 3200 Venice, 6600GT (£98.00), and 250GB 7200.8 doesn't look too shabby.

    it even has onboard via-envy sound, and will be even better with a 7800GT and dual-core X2 early next year.

    i am happy.
  • JarredWalton - Tuesday, May 24, 2005 - link

    35 - Thanks. I wasn't aware of that. (I hate it when manufacturers do that!) Anyway, I added a comment about this in the article. Basically, I'm saying that RAM with TCCD blanks is still a great choice for overclockers looking for maximum clock speeds.

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