Dual Core Intel Platform Shootout - NVIDIA nForce4 vs. Intel 955X
by Anand Lal Shimpi on April 14, 2005 1:01 PM EST- Posted in
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Final Words
Both Intel's 955X and NVIDIA's nForce4 SLI Intel Edition chipsets are expected to be available in motherboards by the end of this month. With that being said, which platform do you go for? Both contenders are quite strong. NVIDIA has the benefits of out-of-the-box SLI support, support for more PATA devices and better NCQ performance than Intel's 955X. On the other hand, Intel has HD Audio support, official support for TM2 on dual core processors and performance that's just as good as NVIDIA in most cases, at a lower price.
We'd give the edge to NVIDIA because of their strong NCQ performance and support for SLI, but those two items aren't necessarily on everyone's shopping list. For a lot of people, SLI is too big of an investment and a lower priced motherboard is far more desirable, not to mention support for TM2 on dual core CPUs for a cooler, quieter system.
The fact that this decision is so very hard is a testament to NVIDIA's strength as a chipset manufacturer. In fact, we've never seen anyone threaten Intel with nearly identical specifications, nearly as much as NVIDIA has with their nForce4 SLI Intel Edition.
In the end, the decision will undoubtedly come down to shipping motherboards - and whether or not motherboard manufacturers are able to enable TM2 support on their nForce4 boards. If they are able to, then we'd have no problem giving NVIDIA the clear win here. Their performance is competitive and they have strengths that exceed those of Intel.
Intel's CPU team should be happy. They have found an extremely complementary partner in NVIDIA. However, Intel's chipset team has reason to worry; motherboard manufacturers weren't happy with the 925/915 chipsets, and with a viable alternative in NVIDIA, we may very well have an opportunity for NVIDIA to start eating into Intel's own chipset market share in a way that no other company has in the past.
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mkruer - Thursday, April 14, 2005 - link
The only reason why Intel allowed Nvidia to make a chipset for them was for the SLI. Intel is worried, and rightfuly so that Nvidia's SLI sloution for AMD whould give AMD an advantage.Questar - Thursday, April 14, 2005 - link
"Honestly, Intel processors and even the platform haven’t been interesting since the introduction of Prescott. They have been too hot and poor performers, not to mention that the latest Intel platforms forced a transition to technologies that basically offered no performance benefits (DDR2, PCI Express)."Your opinion only, don't make this out to be fact.
"at the end of the day, Intel would still be happier if there was no threat from companies like NVIDIA"
nVidia (please print it correctly) is not a "threat" to Intel in the chipset market. They couldn't make a P4 chipset without a license from Intel. If Intel was threatened by them they wouldn't sell them a license. The purpose in licensing is give system builders more choice in design features.
"However Intel’s chipset team has reason to worry; motherboard manufacturers weren’t happy with the 925/915 chipsets, and with a viable alternative in NVIDIA, we may very well have an opportunity for NVIDIA to start eating into Intel’s own chipset market share in a way that no other company has in the past"
Intel probably makes as much net profit off the licensing of the nVidia chipset as they do selling thier own - after all thay don't have to design, build, ship or sell anything. So why would they be worried?
Really Anand, you have to begin thinking these things trough.
Houdani - Thursday, April 14, 2005 - link
Grrr, I should have noted that I was referring to the NCQ testing.Houdani - Thursday, April 14, 2005 - link
Anand: For the Intel DC Preview, what would you say was the queue depth during the various multitasking tests? I'm curious how today's test compares with how you tested the Intel DC in the preview.Also, is the relation between a depth of 8 versus a depth of 32 linear? Would there be any value in testing a depth somewhere in the middle, such as 16 and/or 24?
Thanks yet again for the quality work!
ChineseDemocracyGNR - Thursday, April 14, 2005 - link
"NVIDIA does not support Intel’s HD Audio spec, so you’re stuck with AC’97 on the nForce4 SLI. "That's inexcusable for a $80 chipset, IMO.
ksherman - Thursday, April 14, 2005 - link
cool and all, but is there any variation of the Intel-based SLI vs the AMD Based SLI?