Power Results (15W and 25W)

Based on the SKU table, Intel was very keen to point out that all of the Y-series processors for Ice Lake and all the 15W U-series processors have cTDP up modes. This means that OEMs, if they build for it, can take advantage of a higher base power of a processor which leads to longer turbo periods and a higher frequency during sustained performance levels.

While cTDP is a good idea, one of the issues we have with the concept is that Intel’s OEM partners that design the laptops and notebooks for these processors don’t ever advertise or publicise if they’re using a CPU in cTDP up or down mode. I could understand why a vendor might not want to advertise using a down mode, but an up mode means extra performance, and it’s hard to tell from the outside what is going on.

For what it is worth, most users cannot change between these modes anyway. They are baked into the firmware and the operating system. However there are a few systems that do expose this to the user, as I recently found out with my Whiskey Lake-U platform, where the OS power plan has advanced options to set the TDP levels. Very interesting indeed.

Also, for Ice Lake-U, Intel is introducing a feature called Intel Dynamic Tuning 2.0.

We covered this in our architecture disclosure article, but the short and simple of it is that it allows OEMs to implement a system whereby the PL1/TDP of a system can change based on an algorithm over time. So it allows for higher strict turbo, and then adjusts the turbo budget over time.

This feature will be branded under Intel’s Adaptix brand, which covers all these CPU optimizations. However, it should be noted, that this feature is optional for the OEM. It requires the OEM to actually do the work to characterize the thermal profile of the system. We suspect that it will be mostly on premium devices, but as the chips roll out into cheaper systems, this will not be there. Intel is not making this feature standard.

Testing Power

Based on the time available, we weren’t able to do much power testing. What I was able to do was run a power profile during the start of our 3DPM AVX512 test in both 15W and 25W modes for the Core i7-1065G7.

The test here runs for 20 seconds, then rests for 10 seconds. Here are the first four sub-tests, and there are a lot of interesting points to note.

The peak power in these systems is clearly the PL2 mode, which on the Intel SDS platform seems to be around the 50W mode. Given that the functional test system is a bit of a chonk, with a strong thermal profile and the fan on all the time, this is perhaps to be expected. The suggested PL2 for Kaby Lake-R was 44W, so this might indicate a small jump in strategy. Of course, with the Kaby Lake-R designs, we never saw many devices that actually had a PL2 of 44W – most OEMs chose something smaller, like 22W or 35W.

The fact that the CPU can sustain a 50W PL2 means that Intel could easily release Ice Lake into the desktop market at the 35W range. Easy. Please do this Intel.

Second to note is the AVX-512 frequency. Not listed here, but under the 15W mode we saw the AVX-512 frequency around 1.0-1.1 GHz, while at 25W it was around 1.4-1.5 GHz. That’s quite a drop from non AVX-512 code, for sure.

Third, we come to the turbo window. Increasing the base TDP means that the turbo window has more budget to turbo, and we can see that this equates to more than 2x on all the sub-tests. In the 15W mode, on the first test, we blow through the budget within 5 seconds, but on the 25W mode, we can actually turbo all the way through the 20 seconds of the first test. This means that there is still technically budget on the table by the time we start the second test under the 25W mode.

Also, that third test – if you are wondering why that graph looks a little light on the data points compared to the others, it is because the AVX-512 instructions took so much of the time on the CPU, that our power software didn’t get any for itself to update the power values. We still got enough to make a graph, but that just goes to show what hammering the CPU can do.

For the base power consumption, we actually have an issue here with the observer effect. Our polling software is polling too often and spiking up the power a little bit. However, if we take the average power consumption between 25-30 seconds, under 25W this is 2.96W, and under 15W this is 2.87W, which is similar.

For users interested in the score differential between the two:

For 3DPM without AVX instructions, the 15W mode scored 816, and 25W mode scored 1020 (+25%).
For 3DPM with AVX-512, the 15W mode scored 7204, and 25W mode scored 9242 (+28%).

SPEC2017 and SPEC2006 Results (15W) System Results (15W)
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  • tamalero - Monday, August 5, 2019 - link

    the 3d mark VRS test graph is very confusing.
  • MASSAMKULABOX - Tuesday, August 6, 2019 - link

    These chips are priced quite high esp the i3's the Dualcore is outrageous (20$ discount for half the cores and threads?).They will only sell in limited qtys at such high prices . Bring on the 14nm equiv at sane prices.
    what discrete gfx does the IGPU equate to? gt1030 vs 2200g vs 3400ge??
  • Zhentar - Tuesday, August 6, 2019 - link

    The bit per cycle throughput of REP STOS is really only half of the picture - the startup latency matters a lot too! On my Skylake, I've measured a minimum latency of 29 cycles* (any REP STOS from 1 byte to 128 bytes takes 29 cycle, then it starts going up from there). Some compilers make heavy use of it even for small stores/copies (VC6, first and foremost, but also the .NET JIT for stack zeroing), so it can be pretty important to performance in some scenarios.

    *I am no Agner Fog... nor anywhere close to him, this measurement should be taken with a grain of salt ;-)
  • ballsystemlord - Wednesday, August 7, 2019 - link


    @Ian
    Sunny Cove SIMD chart and others have many asterisks, why?

    "POPCNT Microcode 50% faster than SW (under L1-D size)"
    What does this mean? The CPU uses microcode and HW, not SW, AFAIK, much less use it to implement the POPCNT instruction.
  • ballsystemlord - Thursday, August 8, 2019 - link

    Spelling and grammar errors:
    Insert: I've been commenting corrections for at least 1 year now, if you guys want me to change the format, or have any request regarding phrasing, etc., just ask. Thanks for your work!

    "L3 latencies look similar, however we'll dwell into that just in a bit."
    I think you ment delve:
    "L3 latencies look similar, however we'll delve into that just in a bit."

    "IPC increases against the mobile Skylake are 33 and 38% in the integer and fp suites, though we also have to keep in d mind these figures go beyond just the Sunny Cove architecture and also include improvements through the new LPDDR4X memory controllers."
    Missing percent sign and stray "d".
    "IPC increases against the mobile Skylake are 33% and 38% in the integer and fp suites, though we also have to keep in mind these figures go beyond just the Sunny Cove architecture and also include improvements through the new LPDDR4X memory controllers."

    "...which did not go down to well."
    You mean "too" not "to":
    "...which did not go down too well."

    "...we actually see a number of key microarchitectural improvements bubble up through in our SPEC testing."
    Excess "in":
    "...we actually see a number of key microarchitectural improvements bubble up through our SPEC testing."
  • alysdexia - Thursday, November 28, 2019 - link

    I think you mean Baalsystemlord or Bàqhàlsýstemlord.
    Grammar is a barbarism of ghrammatics, another word for composition or handwriting, font, format, spacing, the looks, whereas you meant diction/lecsis or register, vocabulary, declension, placement, spelling, the meaning.
    you guys -> ye
  • nils_ - Monday, August 19, 2019 - link

    I noticed on Intel Ark that Ice Lake CPUs do not have TSX instructions enabled / available. THis is interesting, since I believe TSX has also been used for some of the spectre attacks.
  • ikjadoon - Thursday, September 12, 2019 - link

    On 'Gaming Results (15W and 25W)', the graph is colored incorrectly. "On" and "Off" have the same color...and the legend colors are somehow not related to the graphic?

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