Simultaneous Multi-Threading

On Zen, each core will be able to support two threads in what is called ‘simulatenous multi-threading’. Intel has supported their version of SMT for a number of years, and other CPU manufacturers like IBM support up to 8 threads per core on their POWER8 platform designs. Building a core to be able to use multiple threads can be tough, as it requires a lot of resources to make sure that the threads do not block each other by consuming all the cache and buffers in play. But AMD will equip Zen with SMT which means we will see 8C/16T parts hitting the market.

Unlike Bulldozer, where having a shared FP unit between two threads was an issue for floating point performance, Zen’s design is more akin to Intel’s in that each thread will appear as an independent core and there is not that resource limitation that BD had. With sufficient resources, SMT will allow the core instructions per clock to improve, however it will be interesting to see what workloads will benefit and which ones will not.

Timeframe and Availability

At the presentation, it was given that Zen will be available in volume in 2017. As the AM4 platform will share a socket with Bristol Ridge, users are likely to see Bristol Ridge systems from AMD’s main OEM partners, like Dell and others, enter the market before separate Zen CPUs will hit the market for DIY builders. It’s a matter of principle that almost no consumer focused semiconductor company releases a product for the sale season, and Q1 features such events as CES, which gives a pretty clear indication of when we can expect to get our hands on one.

It’s worth noting that AMD said that as we get closer to launch, further details will come as well as deeper information about the design. It was also mentioned that the marketing strategy is also currently being determined, such that Zen may not actually be the retail product name for the line of processors (we already have Summit Ridge as the platform codename, but that could change for retail as well).

Wrap Up

AMD has gone much further into their core design than I expected this week. When we were told we had a briefing, and there were 200-odd press and analysts in the room, I was expecting to hear some high level puff about the brand and a reiteration of their commitment to the high end. To actually get some slides detailing parts of the microarchitecture, even at a basic cache level, was quite surprising and it somewhat means that AMD might have stolen the show with the news this week.

We’ve got another couple of pieces detailing some of the AMD internal/live benchmark numbers during the presentation, as well as the dual socket server platform, the 32-core Naples server CPU, and what we saw at the event in terms of motherboard design. 

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  • SunnyNW - Thursday, August 18, 2016 - link

    Looks like the early leak (AOTS) is more/less correct at least for the ES...at the presentation they had the 8c/16t part running at 3ghz.
  • StormyParis - Thursday, August 18, 2016 - link

    "Firstly,"
    I object bigly to that word.
  • psurge - Thursday, August 18, 2016 - link

    Ian - I think there's a mistake on the first page. As far as I know, AGUs do not perform loads and stores, they calculate load/store addresses. It strikes me as interesting that Zen can perform memory operations more quickly (3 per cycle) than it can generate addresses for them (2 per cycle, per the diagram).
  • KaarlisK - Thursday, August 18, 2016 - link

    "some put it as a major stepping stone for Conroe"
    Err, wasn't it Sandy Bridge?
  • MrSpadge - Thursday, August 18, 2016 - link

    Good catch, I think you're right.
  • silverblue - Thursday, August 18, 2016 - link

    I thought Conroe's ace was its four-issue front end; AMD didn't have that ability until Bulldozer.
  • farmergann - Thursday, August 18, 2016 - link

    Did anyone else notice AMD's Zen has 2x GCN CUs? LOL, this is how they managed to trump broadwell-e in Blender. Slightly dishonest since they didn't mention that, but I'm proud of them for showing some competitive fire!
  • Ian Cutress - Saturday, August 20, 2016 - link

    Source?
  • patel21 - Thursday, August 18, 2016 - link

    For me, a performance comparable to i3 skylake, with power requirements at max over 20% of i3, with a good gpu integrated and at around 70% of i3's price. And My boat will sail AMD....Ho yaa
  • iwod - Thursday, August 18, 2016 - link

    Assuming no major bugs, or I/O ( AMD has ALWAYS HAD problem with I/O controller ), Zen should do very well in Server market.
    Yes there is Pref/ Watt, but when you compound it in the Server power usage from other component, I think Zen should be favourable to many. ( Assuming Intel dont massively drop price )

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