Simultaneous Multi-Threading

On Zen, each core will be able to support two threads in what is called ‘simulatenous multi-threading’. Intel has supported their version of SMT for a number of years, and other CPU manufacturers like IBM support up to 8 threads per core on their POWER8 platform designs. Building a core to be able to use multiple threads can be tough, as it requires a lot of resources to make sure that the threads do not block each other by consuming all the cache and buffers in play. But AMD will equip Zen with SMT which means we will see 8C/16T parts hitting the market.

Unlike Bulldozer, where having a shared FP unit between two threads was an issue for floating point performance, Zen’s design is more akin to Intel’s in that each thread will appear as an independent core and there is not that resource limitation that BD had. With sufficient resources, SMT will allow the core instructions per clock to improve, however it will be interesting to see what workloads will benefit and which ones will not.

Timeframe and Availability

At the presentation, it was given that Zen will be available in volume in 2017. As the AM4 platform will share a socket with Bristol Ridge, users are likely to see Bristol Ridge systems from AMD’s main OEM partners, like Dell and others, enter the market before separate Zen CPUs will hit the market for DIY builders. It’s a matter of principle that almost no consumer focused semiconductor company releases a product for the sale season, and Q1 features such events as CES, which gives a pretty clear indication of when we can expect to get our hands on one.

It’s worth noting that AMD said that as we get closer to launch, further details will come as well as deeper information about the design. It was also mentioned that the marketing strategy is also currently being determined, such that Zen may not actually be the retail product name for the line of processors (we already have Summit Ridge as the platform codename, but that could change for retail as well).

Wrap Up

AMD has gone much further into their core design than I expected this week. When we were told we had a briefing, and there were 200-odd press and analysts in the room, I was expecting to hear some high level puff about the brand and a reiteration of their commitment to the high end. To actually get some slides detailing parts of the microarchitecture, even at a basic cache level, was quite surprising and it somewhat means that AMD might have stolen the show with the news this week.

We’ve got another couple of pieces detailing some of the AMD internal/live benchmark numbers during the presentation, as well as the dual socket server platform, the 32-core Naples server CPU, and what we saw at the event in terms of motherboard design. 

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  • BrokenCrayons - Thursday, August 18, 2016 - link

    Hmm...interesting news to say the least, but I'm reluctant to make any assumptions until after Zen is out there being tested. A lot of us were interested in AMD's construction equipment series processors and were disappointed by the final product.
  • Chaser - Thursday, August 18, 2016 - link

    Good on AMD! I am hopeful for them with Zen as many others are.
  • ikjadoon - Thursday, August 18, 2016 - link

    Hmm....nice timing with IDF. Besides the fantasy of getting XPoint in a consumer drive in 5 years, I agree: most people are more interested in AMD. Cautiously (remember the RX 480 presentation?) optimistic.

    At the very least, we'll have some competition around the $300 CPU range. Fairly sure the i7-6700K is priced a little too much higher than the i5-6600K.
  • melgross - Thursday, August 18, 2016 - link

    Most people are more interested in AMD? In what way?
  • nandnandnand - Thursday, August 18, 2016 - link

    AMD's Zen 4/6/8 cores will be a better value than Intel's i7 quad cores. That's what way.
  • Cygni - Thursday, August 18, 2016 - link

    "Will be" sounds pretty definitive considering they aren't even on the market yet and we have no idea how Intel will react with prices or products.

    You would think people would learn not to over hype products that haven't even come out (see: No Man's Sky) but here we are again...
  • StrangerGuy - Thursday, August 18, 2016 - link

    Yeah, and projected products never gets delayed or meets the hype either.
  • Flunk - Thursday, August 18, 2016 - link

    In the competition lowers prices way.
  • ikjadoon - Thursday, August 18, 2016 - link

    In the most basic way possible: reading the news, hehe. I think most people (who aren't interested in X-Point) even realize IDF2016 is happening right now, where Intel showed off Kaby Lake silicon inside a Dell laptop running Overwatch.
  • smilingcrow - Thursday, August 18, 2016 - link

    "The fantasy of getting XPoint in a consumer drive in 5 years."

    Firstly, as a replacement purely for NAND in storage most consumers might find it irrelevant.
    Secondly, it will be available for consumers but at prices that only prosumers might be interested in.
    I think the bigger shift for consumers will be with later products that remove the distinction between memory and storage.

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