Simultaneous Multi-Threading

On Zen, each core will be able to support two threads in what is called ‘simulatenous multi-threading’. Intel has supported their version of SMT for a number of years, and other CPU manufacturers like IBM support up to 8 threads per core on their POWER8 platform designs. Building a core to be able to use multiple threads can be tough, as it requires a lot of resources to make sure that the threads do not block each other by consuming all the cache and buffers in play. But AMD will equip Zen with SMT which means we will see 8C/16T parts hitting the market.

Unlike Bulldozer, where having a shared FP unit between two threads was an issue for floating point performance, Zen’s design is more akin to Intel’s in that each thread will appear as an independent core and there is not that resource limitation that BD had. With sufficient resources, SMT will allow the core instructions per clock to improve, however it will be interesting to see what workloads will benefit and which ones will not.

Timeframe and Availability

At the presentation, it was given that Zen will be available in volume in 2017. As the AM4 platform will share a socket with Bristol Ridge, users are likely to see Bristol Ridge systems from AMD’s main OEM partners, like Dell and others, enter the market before separate Zen CPUs will hit the market for DIY builders. It’s a matter of principle that almost no consumer focused semiconductor company releases a product for the sale season, and Q1 features such events as CES, which gives a pretty clear indication of when we can expect to get our hands on one.

It’s worth noting that AMD said that as we get closer to launch, further details will come as well as deeper information about the design. It was also mentioned that the marketing strategy is also currently being determined, such that Zen may not actually be the retail product name for the line of processors (we already have Summit Ridge as the platform codename, but that could change for retail as well).

Wrap Up

AMD has gone much further into their core design than I expected this week. When we were told we had a briefing, and there were 200-odd press and analysts in the room, I was expecting to hear some high level puff about the brand and a reiteration of their commitment to the high end. To actually get some slides detailing parts of the microarchitecture, even at a basic cache level, was quite surprising and it somewhat means that AMD might have stolen the show with the news this week.

We’ve got another couple of pieces detailing some of the AMD internal/live benchmark numbers during the presentation, as well as the dual socket server platform, the 32-core Naples server CPU, and what we saw at the event in terms of motherboard design. 

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  • pikunsia - Friday, August 19, 2016 - link

    Yeah, but let's recall also Intel used AMD64 architecture (since the Opterons).
  • atomsymbol - Monday, August 22, 2016 - link

    It is true there's no significant difference between ZEN and Skylake.
  • bobhumplick - Thursday, August 30, 2018 - link

    of course they copied intel. its just a dual socket system shrunk to fit on a single die. and thats exactlyw hat they should have done. its exactly what intel should have done when they made the p4. they should have copied themselves. you dont try to push a new arch like p4 or fx when another desing is so dominate. you have to make the cpu fit the software not the other way around. also intel learned that lesson again with epyc (well i guess at the same time as the p4 thing). you have to have something that will run todays software, if you can add functionality to become the new standard in the future then great but it must fit todays software first and if the compeitions cpu fits todays software better then they will set the trends not you
  • Michael Bay - Thursday, August 18, 2016 - link

    WHEN
  • Cygni - Thursday, August 18, 2016 - link

    READ
  • Michael Bay - Friday, August 19, 2016 - link

    I WANT DATES
  • TheinsanegamerN - Friday, August 19, 2016 - link

    BETTER LOSE WEIGHT
  • Michael Bay - Saturday, August 20, 2016 - link

    YOU GOT ME
  • Kaboose - Thursday, August 18, 2016 - link

    "It’s worth nothing that AMD said"
    3rd to last paragraph on the final page, should probably read
    "it's worth NOTING that AMD said".
  • Ian Cutress - Thursday, August 18, 2016 - link

    Ha! That's 2am brain drain for you. Fixed :)

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