Phenom II Performance

The addition of the 955BE and 945 to the top of the Phenom II line now provides uncompromised choices of Phenom II in the midrange. As mentioned in the launch review, Phenom II is now the top performer in the midrange, with Core i7 owning the high-end. Even overclocking is once again an area where AMD need apologize to no one. The latest Phenom II cores are incredible overclockers, yielding even better performance. With the 955BE performance fresh on our radar, it was impossible not to choose the 3.2GHz 955BE as the heart of the latest Phenom II performance PC.

AMD Phenom II Performance PC
Hardware Component Price
Processor Phenom II x4 955 Black Edition
(3.0GHz x4 125W 4x512KB L2, 6MB L3)
$245
Cooling Xigmatek Dark Knight-S1283V $40
Video MSI Radeon HD 4890 1GB - OC Edition (After $20 Rebate) $230
Motherboard Gigabyte GA-MA790XT-UD4P AM3 (after $15 Rebate) $125
Memory OCZ Extreme Edition 4GB (2x2GB) DDR3-1600 (PC3 12800) OCZ3X16004GK 7-7-7 ($83 less $30 Rebate) $53
Hard Drive Western Digital Caviar WD1001FALS 7200RPM Sata 3/0Gb/s 1TB $105
Optical Drive LG BD/HD DVD / 16x DVD+/- RW GGC-H20L - Retail $109
Audio On Motherboard 8-channel -
Case Lian Li PC65B Black Aluminum Mid Tower $100
Power Supply IN WIN Commander 750W SLI/CrossFire 80 Plus Modular ($140 less $50 Rebate) $90
Base System Total $1097
Display ASUS VW266H Black 25.5" 2ms(GTG) HDMI WUXGA LCD Monitor (1920x1200) ($350 less $30 Rebate) $320
Speakers Logitech G51 155W RMS 5.1 Speakers - Retail $135
Input Microsoft CA9-00001 Black PS/2 Standard Keyboard and Optical USB/PS2 Mouse - OEM $16
Operating System Microsoft Vista Home Premium OEM $99
Complete System Bottom Line $1667
SSD (Optional) OCZ Vertex OCZSSD2-1VTX60G 2.5" 60GB SATA II MLC Internal Solid state disk $209

For detailed information on the Phenom II, please read yesterday's Phenom II X4 955 review. The Phenom II 955 at 3.2GHz is the fastest of the currently shipping AMD Phenom II processors, and it is built on a new stepping Phenom II 45nm core. The Phenom II is very similar in L2/L3 cache configuration to the Intel Core i7. Performance is also the best among today's midrange processors, and the 955 is only outperformed by the high-end Intel Core i7 series. As the latest 45nm AMD processor the Phenom II 955 also overclocks very well, matching or exceeding the very best Intel Core 2 Quad performance.

We've paired the Phenom II 940 with the new Gigabyte GA-MA790XT-UD4P motherboard based on the 790X chipset. The 790X is very similar to the 790GX chipset except it does not provide on-board graphics. It also supports the newest AM3 Phenom II processors and DDR3-1066/1333/1600 memory. Gigabyte combines the 790X with the latest AMD SB750 south bridge. This combo provides one x16 slot running at x16, a second x16 slot running at x8, three PCIe x1 slots, and two PCI slots. There are eight 3Gb/s SATA ports, a parallel port, and support for SATA RAID 0/1/5/10, 2600MHz HyperTransport, and maximum memory of 16GB in four slots.

The motherboard rear panel provides eight USB 2.0 ports, two Firewire, PS/2 keyboard and mouse, both optical and coax SPDIF out, and six audio jacks for the I-channel on-board audio. In addition there are two USB headers for internal USB and one additional 1394a (Firewire) header. The Gigabyte 790X board provides plenty of expansion capabilities for a performance AMD system, as well as excellent overclocking capabilities for those who plan to overclock.

The 790X chipset provides a single PCIe X16 slot and a PCIe x8 slot. This is fine for a single card and many will be happy with CrossFire that works as two PCIe x8 slots on the 790GX/X motherboards. However, if you have to have the very best CrossFire performance possible you should look for a motherboard based on the 790FX chipset, which does provide true dual PCIe x16 performance. This may be important to some, which is why we point it out. Otherwise, there is little to complain about with the performance of this Gigabyte AM3 motherboard.

The Phenom II is not the hot CPU you find in the Core i7, but it still benefits from third party cooling - particularly if you plan to overclock with a CPU with OC capabilities like the 955BE. We paired the Phenom II 955BE with the same Xigmatek Dark Knight used in our value systems, which performed well in the lab. At $40 the Xigmatek is an excellent cooling value.

Since the Phenom II is dual-channel DDR3, the motherboard was populated with a 4GB kit of OCZ Intel Extreme Edition DDR3-1600. This memory is rated at 7-7-7 at DDR3-1600 and 9-9-9-at DDR3-1800.  It is even faster at DDR3-1333 or DDR3-1066.  Don't worry about the Intel designation as it will work fine with your new Phenom II 955BE.  If you plan to extensively overclock you might have more flexibility choosing an even faster memory like  DDR3-1800 or  DDR3-2000, but our overclocking tests showed the highest memory speeds were somewhat wasted on the Phenom II and fast memory timings improved performance more. This fast and flexible memory gives both very fast timings and headroom when it is needed.

For the performance system, we upgraded the video card to ATI's latest Radeon HD 4890. As we stated in our review, the 4890 is basically a tweaked and overclocked 4870. It improves performance over the 4870 1GB and competes well with the GTX 275. On a pure performance level the 4890 and GTX 275 trade blows at different resolutions. MSI's overclocked HD 4890 bumps the clock speed up a little higher (880MHz instead of 850MHz), and with the current mail-in rebate it's $20 less than the GTX 275, so it gets our recommendation for the AMD performance build. Need even more power? Feel free to add a second card and run CrossFire. That should be enough for just about any current game at 2560x1600 (and is typically overkill for a 1080p display).

The case for the Phenom II performance system is a well-regarded Lian Li black all aluminum case. This Lian Li case has a reputation for being exceptionally quiet with its four 80mm fans with a fan speed controller and the excellent heat dissipation you expect from an all aluminum case. What is unique is the $40 savings on this case through the month of April, which reduces the cost to $100. There is even a side window for those who like a view of their working system.

The power supply is the IN WIN Commander 750W modular with a 140mm double ball bearing cooling fan. This superb 80 plus certified power supply would be a bit rich for an upper midrange performance rig at a normal selling price of $140. However, there is currently a $50 rebate that reduces the net price to just $90. If this PSU interests you then grab it at this great price as we're sure the rebate will go away as more buyers discover this value.

Most of our editors consider the onboard audio of motherboards to be adequate for even gaming these days. That is why we have not chosen a sound card for the performance midrange system. If you want more than that offered by onboard surround sound, the ASUS Xonar DX 7.1 is one of the top-performing audio cards on the market today. It is a great upgrade to the onboard sound if you want better sound quality. Game compatibility is excellent, but most game creators assume everyone has a Creative Labs sound card. If your main reason for having a powerful computer is gaming, you may prefer the Creative 7.1 Sound Blaster X-Fi Titanium at the same price. In our opinion, the sound quality is batter on the ASUS or an HT sound card, but game compatibility will never be a question with a Creative Labs sound card. We also upgraded to the Logitech G51 speakers. The Logitech rebate has ended, so the price is now $135 or so. They are still a decent value at that price.

The LCD display resolution is still the 1920 horizontal of the 1080p value system, but the 26" displays run at a 16:10 aspect ratio and WUXGA (1920x1200). Regardless of the minor resolution differences, the size of the monitor is now 26", so everything on the screen is a little larger - great if your vision isn't the best. The ASUS VW266H 25.5" provides the preferred HDMI input, as well as DVI and an analog VGA port. Panel speed is rated at an incredible 2ms, but we have found most current LCD panels perform similarly and the speed rating does not really guarantee very much. The ASUS monitor provides a large sharp image, good colors, and fast panel speed at a very good price of $320 after rebate. It comes with DVI and VGA cables, but if you plan to connect with HDMI you will need to buy a separate HDMI cable. The ASUS is also available with a rotatable 2MB webcam attached for just $20 more.

The hard drive remains 1TB but we selected the Western Digital 7200RPM for the Phenom II performance system at $105. This was mainly a concession to those who bitterly complain whenever we choose the Seagate as our 1TB drive choice. The WD is an excellent 1TB drive and it has never had any issues with failure, where early Seagate 1TB drives were plagued with firmware issues. The Seagate drives with recent firmware have performed fine in our labs, but if you are a buyer who worries about that the WD is the better choice. Seagate still provides a 3-year warranty and our experience with filing for warranty service online with Seagate has been excellent. The choice is yours - the Seagate is $85 and the comparable WD is $105.

The remaining components are the same as our value systems. The optical drive is the LG BD-ROM. The Microsoft OEM keyboard and optical mouse provide input and Vista Home Premium OEM runs the system. For more information on these components, you can refer to the descriptions on earlier pages.

In response to those who have asked for SSD recommendations, it is possible to finally make SSD recommendations based on the months of research and testing performed on SSD drives at AnandTech. For more information on SSD test results please see our SSD Anthology and the SSD Update. In keeping with the midrange pricing, we have listed an SSD option of the 60GB OCZ Vertex for the Phenom II performance system, though you could use a larger Vertex SSD if it better meets your needs.

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  • ccd - Monday, May 18, 2009 - link

    I am building a system using the mobo and heatsink fan. This is not a good combo for overclocking. The reason is the the Xigmatek is so big, that it blocks the use of one of the yellow RAM slots that the Asus manual states are best for over clocking.

    Just a word of caution.
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  • ccd - Monday, June 15, 2009 - link

    I built the system using the components I previously mentioned and you are absolutely correct: the Xigmatek is so big, it does extend over one of the yellow memory slots and this board recommends the yellow slots for overclocking. It might me possible to squeeze memory in the slot under the Xigmatek, but I would worry about it touching the Xigmatek and getting too hot.

    The other issue with this mobo is the location of the connections for the front of your case. The front case connectors for my Lian Li case are too short as the Asus connections are located at the furtheset possible spot from the connectors.

    Other than those two issues, I am happy with this build. The PC turned on and I had no problems once I realized that graphics cards now need to be directly connected to the PS.

    I'm thinking of adding a second graphics card and upgrading the PS.
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  • ccd - Wednesday, May 13, 2009 - link

    I'd love to hear any comments from more experienced systems builders on the components I plan to use. This is my second build. The first build did not go well. The PC would not turn on and I had no idea where the problem lay. Then I had the extraordinarily bad luck of getting two bad mobos and compatibiity problems between the mobo that finally worked and my PVR card. It cost me $400 to have someone troubleshoot the PC to get it working.

    With the build, I want to use as many parts from the previous build as possible to save on costs and because I know these parts work. That means I am using my case, a Seasonic 400W PS, a graphics card and sound card. The new parts are:

    ASUS M4A79 Deluxe
    AMD Phenon II X4 940 BE 3.0GHz
    Xigmatek Dark Knight 51283V 120 MM
    Corsair 4GB (2x2GB) 240 Pin DDR2 SDRAM 1066 (PC@ 8500)
    WD Caviar Green WD6400AACS 7200

    The choice of boards is based on this guide and comments at Newegg. Seems like a board that has cause very few problems for the majority of people. Also Newegg has a bundle with the AMD chip for a $35 savings.

    The HDD choice is to make sure my 400PS can handle the new system

    Any thoughts?
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  • bmuell - Wednesday, April 29, 2009 - link

    Does anyone know what Gigabyte's official response is to using dimm slots 3 & 4 instead of 1 & 2 (since reapers won't fit under the Xigmatek)? The manual recommends slots 1 & 2 for dual channel. I'm surprised Anandtech selected these parts (with or without the knowledge) given the compatibility issue... I have to decide whether or not to exchange my heatsink, my memory, or use slots 3 & 4. Reply
  • SHANE44 - Sunday, April 26, 2009 - link

    Whats with all the AMD hate. From reading this article it sounds like AMD has a winner. I personally use intel cpu's and nvidia gpu's but I understand that AMD plays a vital role in both industries. Without AMD who's gonna keep intel and nvidia honest. AMD forces both companies to keep advancing technologically and keep competitive prices. Who knows maybe a few more advances from AMD in the cpu department and my next system might be an AMD. I personally hope the best for AMD in the future. Thanks to Anandtech for the great reviews. I find this to be the most informative sight for all current computer news. Reply
  • Hamlet2000 - Saturday, April 25, 2009 - link

    Does anyone know if the Xigmatek heatsink on the CPU will conflict with the heatsinks on the OCZ Reaper memory?

    I'm looking at putting together a system based off the performance specs and I'm concerned about spacing issues.
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  • Summer - Saturday, April 25, 2009 - link

    Depends on how far your slots are from your CPU but I'm almost certain that the first dimm set (row 1 & 2) of most motherboards will be blocked by the Xigmatek heatsink if you plan to use OCZ reaper memory. I have two boards (Asrock AOD790/Gigabyte MA790XT) with s-1283v heatsinks and the OCZ Reaper memory kit will not clear on the dimm set closest to the CPU on either board. However, IMO the S-1283 line is one of the best and affordable air-cooler series out there especially if your case can handle the size.


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  • Wesley Fink - Sunday, April 26, 2009 - link

    I haven't had any issues with memory and the Xigmatek, as the fin assembly is raised up a bit on the heatpipes before it can potentially overhang the memory slots. However, I haven't really tried it with the Reaper memory, which was selected because of its fast timings (6-6-6) and effective heatpipe cooling. As you saw in the 955BE launch article, the Phenom II worked better with fast memory timings than it did with higher memory speeds in our OC tests.

    After your question I measured some Reaper samples here and the first slots may be a question mark with the Xigmatek. To be safe you could select:

    1 - Crucial Ballistix 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10600) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model BL2KIT25664BA1336 with 6-6-6 tings at $68

    2 - OCZ Platinum 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model OCZ3P13334GK with 7-7-7 tings at $60

    3 - OCZ Intel Extreme Edition 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model OCZ3X16004GK at 7-7-7 timings at $53 after $30 rebate.

    These are all standard profile dimms and they snuggle underneath the Xigmatek cooler just fine. The important thing for the Phenom II memory controller is to shop for the tightest timings you can afford with speed of at least DDR1333. For Intel we would probably look for even faster speed, but higher speed does not help that much on Phenom II's memory controller.

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  • Hamlet2000 - Sunday, April 26, 2009 - link

    Great, thanks for the reply. It's great that you read the comments and respond. I was looking at OCZ Gold memory at 8-8-8-24 since the price was $44 after the rebate, but I'm reconsidering now . . .

    Thanks again.
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  • The Sly Syl - Monday, April 27, 2009 - link

    I'm using the Xigmatek Dark Knight on my FoxConn A7DA-S motherboard with 4 sticks of ram. They all fit fine, Even the Reaper memory with the overly large cooler would fit into 3 of the slots, its only the slot closest to the CPU that might have clearance issues.

    The lower end of the fins are considerably higher than I'd imagine any regular sized stick of ram would ever have to worry about.
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