Silverstone Decathlon DA700 Super Silent Power Supplyby Christoph Katzer on April 22, 2008 12:00 AM EST
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We had a look inside of the unit as we do with every PSU we review. Comparing this layout to former Silverstone models shows only slight differences. An X-cap is missing and an extra coil is present in the filtering stage, but otherwise the design is essentially the same. Silverstone includes a very complete filtering stage. There are three main capacitors installed, which actually allows for a very large heatsink right above them. Whether the larger heatsink was installed because the caps were smaller or the other way around is not easy to answer. Regardless, the three caps do a better job than a single cap would do in their place.
The capacitors are made by Japanese manufacturer Toshin Kyogo and rated at 150µF and 450V each. We have seen this brand in other high-quality power supplies as well already. In the middle are two main transformers and a third smaller one responsible for the standby voltage. The heatsinks are very large and thick. The fins are cut out of the aluminum with enough space between them to let air pass to the parts below them. The other side features Teapo electrolyte capacitors which are in many of the previously tested power supplies.
Looking at the cable management jacks from behind now reveals why they are so unstable. They are not attached to the power supply case very well, so it's possible to move them when you're trying to remove some cables. Silverstone left a lot of space between the PCB and the jacks since there are a lot of cables that need to find their way to the back. Normally companies use PCBs for the cable management, and the approach Silverstone takes here is new to us. In this case, newer does not strike us as better. We can see flaws with this connection system as the jacks wiggle around and don't feel as secure as other designs. Resistance might be higher than necessary because of badly attached connectors.
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Spacecomber - Sunday, April 27, 2008 - linkDoes Silverstone offer any lower wattage Decathlons of the same type as this reviewed model, i.e., with the same very quiet characteristics? 700 watts is just way more power than I can imagine needing for a music server/home theatre PC.
And, I didn't understand why Silverstone and Impervio were considered to be unlikely partners. Can anyone shed a bit of light on that remark?
Finally (and least), I think this sentence on the first page is missing a word, "However, with this new Decathlon Silverstone is trying a different approach from what we have previously [seen?]."
Christoph Katzer - Sunday, April 27, 2008 - linkSilverstone does have the ELEMENT series with 400 watts which is very nice as well.
The remark on Silverstone and Impervio was made because I said once that Impervio was formed by Silverstone. I then had major complaints from Impervio coming in since there were companies wanting to stop working with them if they belonged to Silverstone.
Clue69Less - Wednesday, April 23, 2008 - linkBased on the review title, I'd expected to see some comparison data. Maybe the PCP&C Silencer 750 and the Zalman HP-700 units would be good to compare if having ample power in a quiet package. Sure, this review has quantitative SPL results but it would be nice to see an actual, real-time comparison. You know, like science typically does.
Kanchenjunga - Wednesday, April 23, 2008 - linkYour methodology claims a 4 decimal place accuracy but the graphs aren't even visually accurate to 1 decimal place. The graphs should also reflect identical voltage ranges for equidistant lines but they don't, the first lines above and below nominal are only half or less the voltage range as the equidistant lines in the rest of the graph. As a result the voltage drops beyond a plus or minus 1% range aren't reflected accurately in the shape of the curve.
Also the 11.94V line in the 12V graph should be 11.64V and the 3.14V line should be labeled 3.13V if the graphs are supposed to be consistent above and below nominal.
Stefan555 - Tuesday, April 22, 2008 - linkThe label on the psu is not more complicated than on any other psu, its very easy to understand, I cant see what makes this label more complicated than any other label.
No offence Chris, but are you really sure you know how to read the labels?
whatthehey - Tuesday, April 22, 2008 - linkThe Greater Internet Fuckwad Theory in full effect (http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2004/03/19/">http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2004/03/19/ for the uninformed).
The label lists combined 3.3V and 5V, but nothing about the 12V. 58A and 12V works out to 696W, which means you can't count on getting anywhere near 58A from the 12V lines. And there are four 12V rails, but no mention of the breakdown of power distribution. Hell, the label doesn't even let you know there are four rails! Yes, that's so much better than, say, the way Xigmatek did their labels: http://www.anandtech.com/casecoolingpsus/showdoc.a...">http://www.anandtech.com/casecoolingpsus/showdoc.a...
It's not a huge complaint, but given the parity between power supplies it seems to me that a lame-ass label deserves a mention. Just like your comment deserved a rebuttal. No offense, but are you sure you know how to read technical reviews?
jonnyGURU - Tuesday, April 22, 2008 - link
The label lists combined 3.3V and 5V, but nothing about the 12V. 58A and 12V works out to 696W, which means you can't count on getting anywhere near 58A from the 12V lines.
Since there is bound to be a minimum load requirement on the other rails, it is true that it would be difficult to load the +12V up to 696W without going over 700W, but I fail to see how this makes for an argument that the label is any less comprehensive. When other PSU companies list the +12V capability in watts, I hear people complain that they have to bust out a calculator and divide by 12. Is it really so hard to go from wattage to amperage and vise versa when the voltage is known?
Unless you're using this sentence as a platform for your argument:
Obviously, that load is not possible with the combined power of all three main rails; doing the necessary math, if you put a load of 180W on the 3.3V and 5V rails, that leaves 520W for the 12V rail, or 43A.
I believe if you look at virtually ANY quality power supply on the market you're going to find that if you full load whatever the +3.3V and +5V combined is, that there is significantly less power available to the +12V. I say "quality" because any PSU that gives you a total wattage number that IS the sum of it's +3.3V and +5V and it's +12V is likely lying about it's actual total output capability. This has everything to do with a power supply's capability to convert AC to DC and then the unit's ability to regulate X amount of DC on the secondary side. Never does 3.3V + 5V + 12V = PSU's total capability.
And there are four 12V rails, but no mention of the breakdown of power distribution. Hell, the label doesn't even let you know there are four rails!
I must have missed this because nowhere could I find that this is a PSU with a split +12V rail. In fact, in this review it says: "The DA700 comes with a single 12V rail rated for up to 58A" and on SilverStone's website it says "Class-leading single +12V rail with 58A at 50?" so where are we getting four +12V rails from?
strikeback03 - Tuesday, April 22, 2008 - linkBottom of page 4: " The more important 12V rail, which is actually four separate rails, has similar good readings and always stays just above the specified 12.00V"
Stefan555 - Tuesday, April 22, 2008 - linkYes, thats a statement in the review. Silverstone sell the psu as a single rail unit. You must prove Silverstone is hiding the truth, not just make a statement out of no-where.
Without proof the statement is worth nothing
Christoph Katzer - Tuesday, April 22, 2008 - linkIf someone would only look through all of the date before making comments. Please have a look in the gallery added to the Internals page. One might find a picture with the different 12V rails clearly marked on the PCB... additionally one might find the four different color markings on the yellow 12V cables on various kinds of pics from the article.