AMD Athlon 64 4000+ and Intel Pentium 4 570J: Head to Head

We've got our entire suite of benchmarks with all of the various processor speeds in the coming pages, but we thought we'd start this review out with the comparison that made the most sense: the Pentium 4 570J vs. the AMD Athlon 64 4000+.  Both chips are at virtually identical price points (the 4000+ sells for around $680, which is where we expect the 570J to be) and are the flagship desktop CPUs from both companies (not including the Extreme Edition and FX series). 

The comparison uses all of our normal tests, but simply singles out these two processors as the only contenders.  If you are interested in seeing a broad picture of AMD vs. Intel, the forthcoming pages will be able to give you just that.  This page is mostly for those readers who have kept up with the recent CPU reviews at AnandTech and just want an update on how the 570J changes things, so here we go:

Intel is unusually competitive in the Business/General Usage tests which is absolutely not the norm. Despite Intel's strengths, a couple of the tests greatly favored AMD (Mozilla and WinRAR), giving AMD the advantage here.

Business/General Use
 
AMD Athlon 64 4000+
Intel Pentium 4 570J
Performance Advantage
Business Winstone 2004
23.6
22.2
6.31%
SYSMark 2004 - Communication
150
144
4.17%
SYSMark 2004 - Document Creation
195
207
5.80%
SYSMark 2004 - Data Analysis
146
195
25.13%
Microsoft Office XP with SP-2
521
509
2.36%
Mozilla 1.4
279
478
41.63%
ACD Systems ACDSee PowerPack 5.0
485
482
0.62%
Ahead Software Nero Express 6.0.0.3
492
514
4.28%
WinZip Computing WinZip 8.1
398
394
1.02%
WinRAR
632
485
30.31%
Winner
-
-
AMD

 

The performance breakdown is somewhat close under the Multitasking Content Creation tests, with AMD even walking away with a win in the mutltiasking encoder test, but AMD's advantages of victory are not as frequent nor as large as Intel's.

Multitasking Content Creation
 
AMD Athlon 64 4000+
Intel Pentium 4 570J
Performance Advantage
Content Creation Winstone 2004
36.1
33.8
6.80%
SYSMark 2004 - 3D Creation
205
241
14.94%
SYSMark 2004 - 2D Creation
260
298
12.75%
SYSMark 2004 - Web Publication
187
218
14.22%
Mozilla and Windows Media Encoder
550
583
5.66%
Winner
-
-
Intel


We've been impressed at how close things have been thus far and our Video Creation/Photo Editing tests make things even closer, with both camps trading wins resulting in a virtual tie. It looks like Photoshop performance is identical between the two chips and while AMD is faster under Premier, Intel is faster under Movie Creator by about the same percentage.

Video Creation/Editing
 
AMD Athlon 64 4000+
Intel Pentium 4 570J
Performance Advantage
Adobe Photoshop 7.0.1
314
320
1.88%
Adobe Premiere 6.5
368
429
14.22%
Roxio VideoWave Movie Creator 1.5
306
265
15.47%
Winner
-
-
Tie


The encoding tests clearly go to Intel, AMD isn't able to muster up a single win here although they are close with the audio encoding Jukebox test. The performance advantages held by Intel are very strong in the DivX, XviD and WME9 tests.

Audio/Video Encoding
 
AMD Athlon 64 4000+
Intel Pentium 4 570J
Performance Advantage
MusicMatch Jukebox 7.10
458
437
4.81%
DivX Encoding
48.7
58.1
16.18%
XViD Encoding
32.8
35.3
7.08%
Microsoft Windows Media Encoder 9.0
2.23
2.73
18.32%
Winner
-
-
Intel


While Intel took all of the encoding tests, AMD still can't be beat when it comes to gaming performance. It is going to take a lot more than 3.8GHz to tilt the balance in Intel's favor here. Given what we've seen with the performance of the Extreme Edition chips under our gaming tests, we'd hypothesize that even Intel's 600 series of Pentium 4s won't be able to dethrone AMD as the gaming performance leader.

Gaming
 
AMD Athlon 64 4000+
Intel Pentium 4 570J
Performance Advantage
Doom 3
100.7
87.1
15.61%
Sims 2
56.5
49.7
13.68%
CS: Source
185.6
148
25.41%
Halo
96.7
88.9
8.77%
Far Cry
154.9
135.1
14.66%
Star Wars Battlefront
145
141
2.84%
Battlefield Vietnam
240
240
0.00%
UT2004
70.9
61.1
16.04%
Wolf: ET
108.9
101.2
7.61%
Warcraft III
62
61
1.64%
Winner
-
-
AMD

 

Both AMD and Intel trade wins in the 3D rendering tests, however AMD's two wins are in the same test (just different APIs) and the margin of victory is much lower than Intel's victory in the SPECapc 3dsmax 6 test, so when it comes to 3dsmax rendering performance the nod goes to the 570J.

3D Rendering
 
AMD Athlon 64 4000+
Intel Pentium 4 570J
Performance Advantage
Discreet 3ds max 5.1 (DirectX)
244
252
3.17%
Discreet 3ds max 5.1 (OpenGL)
300
314
4.46%
SPECapc 3dsmax 6
1.53
1.75
12.57%
Winner
-
-
Intel

 

Unusually close, our SPECviewperf tests show a very heated battle between the two chips, but AMD manages to secure two major victories that give them the performance crown here. AMD's performance under our Visual Studio 6 compile test makes it clear that developers working on large projects need to be using the Athlon 64 to keep compile times as low as possible; with almost a 20% performance advantage in compile time, the Athlon 64 will make a huge difference in how long it takes to compile large projects.

Professional Apps
 
AMD Athlon 64 4000+
Intel Pentium 4 570J
Performance Advantage
SPECviewperf 8 - 3dsmax-03
16.78
17.45
3.84%
SPECviewperf 8 - catia-01
14.04
14.43
2.70%
SPECviewperf 8 - light-07
14.32
14.78
3.11%
SPECviewperf 8 - maya-01
18.61
13.79
34.95%
SPECviewperf 8 - proe-03
17.31
17.16
0.87%
SPECviewperf 8 - sw-01
13.8
13.45
2.60%
SPECviewperf 8 - ugs-04
16.05
15.85
1.26%
Visual Studio 6
12.8
15.7
18.47%
Winner
-
-
AMD


While we expected this review to be more of the usual, we were pleasantly surprised to see that the Pentium 4 570J is actually a fairly strong competitor to AMD's Athlon 64 4000+. Part of the reason behind this is because AMD didn't actually increase the clock speed of the 4000+, it still runs at the same 2.4GHz as the 3800+, albeit with a larger L2 cache. Had AMD released a 2.6GHz Athlon 64 4000+ Intel would have had a more difficult time with the 570J, but given that things are the way they are our CPU recommendation is split between the two.

Gamers, business users, developers and the general public will find that the Athlon 64 4000+ is faster in the types of applications they run. However content producers or anyone that does a good deal of video encoding or 3D rendering will find that the Pentium 4 570J will offer better performance for their applications. AMD still does better overall, but Intel does a very good job of hanging onto the performance crown in a handful of specific areas.

Remember that the recommendations change as soon as you start looking at lower price points, but at this $600 - $700 the recommendations above are quite valid.

For those of you looking for comparisons at the $200 and $500 price points we've already done these investigations in previous articles so be sure to check them out as well. For those of you who haven't been following our CPU coverage lately we've included our normal performance graphs comparing the Pentium 4 570J to the rest of the current CPU market over the coming pages.

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  • pplapeu - Wednesday, November 17, 2004 - link

    why do you no longer overclock?

    you know users will do that. What if this processor was dialed up 10%, it would clock at 4.18Ghz and could run faster. I think the performance tales would be far different.
    Reply
  • Staples - Monday, November 15, 2004 - link

    Well the CEO did step down a few days ago. I hope we see better management soon. This is an embarrasment for Intel. Ever since the A64 came out, Intel has been releasing backseat products. Reply
  • IntelUser2000 - Monday, November 15, 2004 - link

    No, its that most of you guys are AMD biased. Say Intel does release a high-performing Pentium M architecture based chip. Then you guys will just shut up and say nothing else. If AMD comes with 5% performance lead, AMD is thought of as GOD or something. Probably even greater. And about BTX, Pentium M does run pretty cool, but at 21W, that was equal to initial 0.18 micron P3's. Actually some of the DESKTOP P3's had ~15W TDP. I heard 286's and 386's had less than 5W TDP. Cooler, and faster is always better. Granted you may not need as much if your processor runs hotter, but still its necessary. It's also mentioned that since quiet PCs are gaining popularity, BTX can help a lot since it will allow graphics cards to have smaller fans.

    Another 3.8GHz P4 link: http://www.tomshardware.com/cpu/20041115/index.htm...

    Quite contrary to their 3.6GHz throttling article, they seem positive towards 3.8GHz P4.
    Reply
  • fawifewaewaf - Sunday, November 10, 2013 - link

    diaff cretin Reply
  • mlittl3 - Monday, November 15, 2004 - link

    #35,

    Do you know that the long post of #21 is the author of the article you just read (which is way longer than any post) and the owner of Anandtech? Do you see the post is from ANAND Lal Shimpi? And that his post was in response to the other long post which Anand saw as important enough to respond to.

    I enjoy all the comments on this site, long and short. It gives readers a sort of "behind the scenes" look at hardware and software. I think there should be no restrictions as it currently stands.

    Keep 'em coming. Go Anandtech :)
    Reply
  • bob661 - Monday, November 15, 2004 - link

    Based on #32's link, it would seem that the P4's would decrease in performance during sustained use with an average user. So unless you're an enthusiast, you would not see the full performance of any of the new P4's. Reply
  • Alphafox78 - Monday, November 15, 2004 - link

    There should be a size limit on posts... Reply
  • GTMan - Monday, November 15, 2004 - link

    Does the EDB functionality lower system performance when it is turned on? Reply
  • Auteur - Monday, November 15, 2004 - link

    #12:

    The only reason HardOCP uses DVD2AVI in their bench marking suite is its the only Divx front end that runs faster on AMD cpu's than Intel's. Its a dead app (the author no longer updates it) that can't IVTC, deinterlace, clean or sharpen video. Its great for demuxing audio and thats it.

    Intel's chips dominate when you use the popular front ends like AutoGK, Gordian Knot or Xmpeg. Read Doom9's forum if you don't believe me.
    Reply
  • langles - Monday, November 15, 2004 - link

    Did you read the article at Tom's Hardware this weekend about the thermal issues with the Pentium 4 3.6 GHz?

    http://www.tomshardware.com/cpu/20041114/index.htm...
    "The Heat Can Cause Intel's P4 To Throttle And Damage Over Time"

    I would expect that this issue is even worse for the 3.8 GHz.
    Reply

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