GPU Performance

With three GPU options in the GE75 Raider there’s a wide range of performance available depending on the price range chosen. Being stuffed into a laptop also means each GPU won’t perform identically to their desktop counterparts which have significantly higher power draw, despite the similar naming and despite offering the same number of CUDA cores in the laptop variants. NVIDIA also offers Max-Q models for laptops which further limit the power draw to allow the GPUs to fit in even smaller laptops, but MSI is not leveraging the Max-Q for the 17.3-inch GE75 Raider. NVIDIA officially rates all of the mobile RTX lineup at an 80-Watt base power draw, with the RTX 2060 ramping up to 90 Watts, the 2070 up to 115 Watts, and the RTX 2080, which we have in our review unit, at 150 Watts and up.

Each of the GPUs also offer a generous amount of GDDR6 memory, with the RTX 2060 providing 6 GB and the 2070 and 2080 both featuring 8 GB, which is plenty for even the most demanding current generation title. They of course also support the RTX headline feature of hardware Ray Tracing support.

NVIDIA RTX Laptop Cards
  RTX 2060 RTX 2070 RTX 2080
CUDA Cores 1920 2304 2944
RTX-OPS 26T 31-38T 37-53T
Giga Rays/s 3.5 4-5 5-7
Base Clock 960 MHz 885-1215 MHz 735-1380 MHz
Boost Clock 1200 MHz 1185-1440 MHz 1095-1590 MHz
GPU Power Draw 80-90W 80-115W 80-150+W
Memory Capacity 6GB GDDR6 8GB GDDR6 8GB GDDR6
Memory Bus Width 192-bit 256-bit 256-bit
Memory Bandwidth 336 GB/s 448 GB/s 448 GB/s

The one headline feature of an NVIDIA gaming laptop that the MSI GE75 Raider is missing is G-SYNC though, which is shame since it makes for a wonderful experience especially on a high-refresh laptop such as this.

To see how the GE75 Raider performs, it was run through our gaming laptop suite, which starts with a couple of synthetic tests and then adds in some real-world games.

3DMark

Futuremark 3DMark Fire Strike

Futuremark 3DMark Sky Diver

Futuremark 3DMark Cloud Gate

Futuremark 3DMark Ice Storm Unlimited

Futuremark 3DMark Ice Storm Unlimited - Graphics

Futuremark 3DMark Ice Storm Unlimited - Physics

First up is UL’s 3DMark, which tests the GPU across a variety of different scene complexity, with Fire Strike being the most complex, and moving down to Ice Storm Unlimited which is a test that can be run on smartphones, and therefore more suitable to our integrated GPU devices, but there’s no harm in running a beast like this on there is there? Right off the bat we can see that MSI’s decision to not go with a Max-Q model on the GE75 Raider was a good decision for performance, with the Core i9 powered laptop’s powerful CPU dragging the hefty GPU to near the top of our results, and nearly surpassing the SLI GTX 1080 GT83VR Titan in Fire Strike. This is easily the fastest single-card laptop we’ve tested in Fire Strike so far.

GFXBench

GFXBench 5.0 Aztec Ruins Normal 1080p Offscreen

GFXBench 5.0 Aztec Ruins High 1440p Offscreen

Kishonti’s updated GFXBench offers DX12 support with the Aztec Ruins scenes, and as such we’ve dropped the older, less relevant, OpenGL tests and moved exclusively to the new DX12 test. As we saw in 3DMark, the GE75 Raider’s combination of faster CPU and less-throttled GPU propel it past the only other gaming laptop we’ve tested with the new suite.

Dota 2

Dota 2 Reborn - Enthusiast

Valve’s incredibly popular Dota 2 is a fixture in our GPU suite because it is playable across a wide range of devices, although the game can get CPU limited because of the less demanding GPU requirements. Interestingly the RTX 2080 laptops both settle in slightly down on the best GTX 1080 devices we’ve tested, but there’s plenty of performance here so it’s not a huge issue.

Tomb Raider

Tomb Raider - Enthusiast

Although surpassed by the more recent titles in this series, the original Tomb Raider can still be a challenge for some gaming laptops. That’s not the case here though with the MSI GE75 providing the best performance yet for a single-card laptop we’ve tested.

Rise of the Tomb Raider

Rise of the Tomb Raider - Enthusiast

Offering some stunning graphics, the second installment for the latest Tomb Raider series is a visual delight. The MSI GE75 doesn’t quite hit the top of this chart, but it’s within a few FPS of doing so.

Shadow of the Tomb Raider

Shadow of the Tomb Raider - Enthusiast

The latest installment in the Tomb Raider series bumps the graphical quality yet again, and is demanding enough that even at 1920x1080 no laptop we’ve tested yet can hit the native refresh of 144 Hz we’re seeing on many gaming laptops this generation. The MSI GE75 does pull out a sizeable margin here though.

Civilization VI

Civilization VI Enthusiast

The latest installment in the Civilization series doesn’t require the kinds of high framerate as some of our other titles to be playable, but it can still be a demanding title in its own right. The GE75 Raider tops the chart again with a combination of powerful CPU and GPU.

Bioshock Infinite

Bioshock Infinite - Enthusiast

Bioshock is an older title that can still challenge gaming laptops with lesser GPUs, but the top end of the range has no issue with this title at all.

Shadow of Mordor

Shadow of Mordor - Enthusiast

Once again we see the GE75 Raider jump to the top of the list in Shadow of War, with a sizeable gap to the other RTX laptop we’ve tested.

Shadow of War

Shadow of War - Enthusiast

In the newer Shadow of War the graphical demands rise significantly, but the GE75 Raider keeps its spot at the top.

Far Cry 5

Far Cry 5 - Enthusiast

Ubisoft’s Far Cry series continues to deliver great looking games with unique storytelling. At our Enthusiast level settings, the tables have flipped now with the GE75 Raider a few FPS off of the others in this title.

F1 2017

F1 2017 - Enthusiast

Codemaster’s Ego engine is a staple in their racing game lineup and it continues to deliver great looking racing games. The engine can be CPU limited though, which helps explain the jump in performance seen with the GE75 Raider over its competition

UHD Gaming

Although the GE75 Raider doesn’t offer a UHD display option, it was connected to a UHD display to give a sense on how it performs at a resolution offering four times the pixels of the 1920x1080 display it ships with.

QHD Gaming

UHD Gaming

The MSI GE75 Raider pulls a commanding lead at higher resolutions. The additional thermal headroom in the GE75 Raider makes a huge difference. The UHD performance isn’t quite to the point where you can run any game at max settings though, although at QHD you certainly can.

GPU Conclusion

Going with a standard RTX 2080 and not the Max-Q makes sense for the MSI GE75 Raider since it’s not a thin and light gaming laptop, and the extra thermal headroom, coupled with a powerful CPU, help keep this laptop at or near the top in most of our tests. Still, the RTX lineup hasn’t delivered the same generational leap in performance we’re accustomed to with new card launches, especially on the laptop side where power requirements are crucial to performance. Overall, the RTX 2080 is the fastest gaming laptop card at the moment, but not necessarily across all titles. For NVIDIA, the problem for them is the GTX 1080 was just so good.

If you’re after a new gaming laptop though, the RTX 2080 does offer great performance as well as the addition of hardware ray tracing support in games that offer that new feature. MSI has coupled it with a very fast CPU as well in the GE75 Raider.

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  • gunnys - Friday, July 12, 2019 - link

    The current lack of 4K 17.3" gaming laptops is depressing. We have faster hardware but low res displays.
  • DanNeely - Friday, July 12, 2019 - link

    As noted in the article itself, MSI is currently limiting the 17" 4k option to their even higher end and chunkier GT76 series.
  • gunnys - Friday, July 12, 2019 - link

    I missed that, thanks for the heads up. But I also meant in general, lack of 4K sucks. I spend way more time not gaming than gaming, and would appreciate higher pixel density in general tasks. Personally I'd be more pleased with 4K at even just 60 Hz. A 120 Hz or 144 Hz panel would be useful just a few hours a month in gaming.

    And the whole situation makes even less sense when I'm seeing plenty of 15.6" 4K laptops.

    I've heard the new Razer Blade Pro will only ship with 4K in it's upcoming Quadro RTX version. It appears manufacturers are reserving 4K for the highest tier only. In that case.... I'll hold off on buying. I don't need a Quadro or a $4000 laptop... just more pixel density. An RTX 2080 or Quadro isn't needed to drive Windows, Office, and Youtube at 2160p.

    A decent 17.3" 4K panel wasn't a huge upgrade cost just a year or two ago.
  • DanNeely - Friday, July 12, 2019 - link

    as an ever more niche product line 17" laptops tend to lag badly in any components (like screens) that can't be shared with more plebeian 15" laptops. Volumes of high end 13 laptops are higher than 15" and 15" is higher than 17"; with the result that most of the higher end screen options started at the smallest size where there was more volume to be sold and then worked their way to smaller volume parts only slowly.

    When I get my next laptop in a year or two I'm hoping to be able to find something with 1440p/144hz at 15". 4k's massive overkill, drives up power consumption. 1440p is good enough for general use and is at least somewhat plausible to game at above 60hz on the occasions I do that instead of just surfing the web.
  • quiksilvr - Friday, July 12, 2019 - link

    I would say not having G-SYNC is the bigger issue.
  • tshoobs - Wednesday, July 17, 2019 - link

    I agree that it is sad to still see so many gaming laptops in this class using 1080p - that is really not enough pixel density for a 17.3" screen.

    For general use, 4k resolution in this screen size still generates a lot of need for scaling which in Windows is as good as it has ever been but still flawed.

    I'd love to see a 1440p panel however, I think that would be perfect for the 17.3" gaming laptop. 1080p is very long in the tooth.
  • ingwe - Friday, July 12, 2019 - link

    Given that it is a 144 Hz IPS display with great color accuracy, I think it is still a display to be happy with.
  • weilin - Friday, July 12, 2019 - link

    I'd personally prefer QHD (2560x1440) over UHD. Especially for screens smaller than 24". It seems like the best compromise on resolution and performance.
  • quantumshadow44 - Friday, July 12, 2019 - link

    Im perfectly fine with 4k on 15" dell m4800.
    100% srgb/Adobergb
  • pbollwerk - Friday, July 12, 2019 - link

    My current laptop (Alienware 13) has the "near"-4k OLED, and while it looks gorgeous, I don't like the performance hit I get when gaming, and text is unreadable. Maybe 4k is better on a 17", but my next gaming laptop won't be 4k. For gaming, it's not worth it for me.
    For other tasks, like video/photo editing, I can understand. But this is a gaming laptop.
    Having said that, 1080 is too low resolution for modern laptops.

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