Qualcomm Announces Snapdragon 430, 617 SoCs: Incremental Updates
by Joshua Ho on September 15, 2015 1:27 AM EST- Posted in
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- Snapdragon 617
- Snapdragon 430
While the Snapdragon 820 is most likely to capture public attention as a halo product, Qualcomm has also been working on updating their mid-range SoCs. The first update announced was the Snapdragon 617, which appears to be similar to the Snapdragon 615 with an updated X8 modem for UE category 7 LTE, with support for carrier aggregation of up to 2 20 MHz carriers. The DSP is in the same family as the Snapdragon 615, but it looks like the DSP might have been rebranded. The ISP is shared with the Snapdragon 620, which allows for cameras with resolutions as high as 21MP.
| Qualcomm Snapdragon 600 Lineup | ||||
| SoC | Snapdragon 615 | Snapdragon 617 | Snapdragon 618 | Snapdragon 620 |
| CPU | 4x Cortex A53 @1.0GHz 4x Cortex A53 @1.7GHz |
4x Cortex A53 @?GHz 4x Cortex A53 @1.5GHz |
4x Cortex A53 @1.2GHz 2x Cortex A72 @1.8GHz |
4x Cortex A53 @1.2GHz 4x Cortex A72 @1.8GHz |
| Memory Controller |
1x 32-bit @ 800MHz LPDDR3 6.4GB/s b/w |
1x 32-bit @ 933MHz LPDDR3 7.5GB/s b/w |
2x 32-bit @ 933MHz LPDDR3 14.9GB/s b/w |
2x 32-bit @ 933MHz LPDDR3 14.9GB/s b/w |
| GPU | Adreno 405 | Adreno 405 | "Next-gen" Adreno | "Next-gen" Adreno |
| Encode/ Decode |
1080p H.264 1080p30 HEVC decode |
1080p H.264 1080p60 HEVC decode |
2160p30, 1080p120 H.264 & HEVC |
2160p30, 1080p120 H.264 & HEVC |
| Camera/ISP | 21MP | Dual ISP 21MP |
Dual ISP 21MP |
Dual ISP 21MP |
| Integrated Modem |
"X5 LTE" Cat. 4 150Mbps DL 50Mbps UL |
"X8 LTE" Cat. 7 300Mbps DL 100Mbps UL |
"X8 LTE" Cat. 7 300Mbps DL 100Mbps UL 2x20MHz C.A. (DL & UL) |
"X8 LTE" Cat. 7 300Mbps DL 100Mbps UL 2x20MHz C.A. (DL & UL) |
| Qualcomm Snapdragon 400 Lineup | |||
| SoC | Snapdragon 415 | Snapdragon 425 | Snapdragon 430 |
| CPU | 4x Cortex A53@?GHz 4x Cortex A53@1.4GHz |
4x Cortex A53@?GHz 4x Cortex A53@1.7GHz |
4x Cortex A53@?GHz 4x Cortex A53@1.2GHz |
| Memory Controller |
1x 32-bit @ 667MHz LPDDR3 5.3GB/s b/w |
1x 32-bit @ 933MHz LPDDR3 7.5GB/s b/w |
1x 32-bit @ 800MHz LPDDR3 6.4GB/s b/w |
| GPU | Adreno 405 | Adreno 405 | Adreno 505 |
| Encode/ Decode |
1080p H.264 1080p30 HEVC decode |
1080p H.264 1080p60 HEVC decode |
1080p H.264 1080p30 HEVC decode |
| Camera/ISP | 13MP | Dual ISP 21MP |
Dual ISP 21MP |
| Integrated Modem |
"X5 LTE" Cat. 4 150Mbps DL 50Mbps UL |
"X8 LTE" Cat. 7 300Mbps DL 100Mbps U 2x20MHz C.A. (DL & UL) |
"X6 LTE" Cat. 4 150Mbps DL 50Mbps UL |
The Snapdragon 430 goes along a similar line of thought, but with a bump to 8 cores from the 4 cores of the Snapdragon 410/412. The GPU is also updated to Adreno 505 from the Adreno 306, but what this translates to is effectively unknown. The Snapdragon 430 will also have a UE category 4 modem with the ability to aggregate two 10 MHz downlink carriers for 150 Mbps and Category 5 uplink speeds of 75 Mbps. The ISP will be shared with the Snapdragon 617, which means dual ISPs that can enable a 21MP camera. Both SoCs and the Snapdragon 820 will support Qualcomm’s Quick Charge 3.0, which improves charge efficiency and/or charge rate over Quick Charge 2.0.
Source: Qualcomm
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icrf - Tuesday, September 15, 2015 - link
Well, honestly, what are you expecting? The market today is just A53 and A57 combinations, it's just growing by two new types of cores and things shift around accordingly. I rather like the look of the 618. It looks similar to the high-end 808 of today, but hopefully priced for the mid-range, given its model number.mforce - Tuesday, September 15, 2015 - link
These SOCs really do look exciting and even the weakest one seems to still be a decent one as far as CPU power is concerned. They'll certainly create some problems for Mediatek.BMNify - Tuesday, September 15, 2015 - link
These SOCs won't create any problem for Mediatek, Qualcomm will not be able to compete on price.nikaldro - Tuesday, September 15, 2015 - link
Can't they just give us 2 A72s for the lower end, instead of that 8 A53 garbage?Cod3rror - Tuesday, September 15, 2015 - link
Agreed! Is there a benefit to 8 A53s compared to 4? Throw 2 A72s in there. But I guess they have to A72 for mid-high end.Cod3rror - Tuesday, September 15, 2015 - link
*keepkyuu - Tuesday, September 15, 2015 - link
So there still aren't any Qualcomm SoCs outside of the high-end offerings that offer the passive-listening feature to allow for "Hey, Cortana" functionality on Win Phones, correct?Cod3rror - Tuesday, September 15, 2015 - link
So can be expect 430 in Moto G 4th generation? I wonder if Snapdragon 430 has a barometer.exmachiner - Sunday, September 20, 2015 - link
From the clockspeeds I'm guessing 620/618 will end up on the 28nm node as a replacement for 808. 820 will probably be 16nm FINFET, and obviously perform better. So the only hope of seeing a full-fledged A72 core chip on 16nm is Mediatek as Qualcomm will keep sabotaging it till they have a significantly better core design.Fidelator - Sunday, September 20, 2015 - link
Other than the GPU I fail to see how the 430 is any better than the 425, are the specs actually mixed up?