After several requests and a week’s break from our initial DirectX 12 article, we’re back again with an investigation into Star Swarm DirectX 12 performance scaling on AMD APUs. As our initial article was run on various Intel CPU configurations, this time we’re going to take a look at how performance scales on AMD’s Kaveri APUs, including whether DX12 is much help for the iGPU, and if it can help equalize the single-threaded performance gap been Kaveri and Intel’s Core i3 family.

To keep things simple, this time we’re running everything on either the iGPU or a GeForce GTX 770. Last week we saw how quickly the GPU becomes the bottleneck under Star Swarm when using the DirectX 12 rendering path, and how difficult it is to shift that back to the CPU. And as a reminder, this is an early driver on an early OS running an early DirectX 12 application, so everything here is subject to change.

CPU: AMD A10-7800
AMD A8-7600
Intel i3-4330
Motherboard: GIGABYTE F2A88X-UP4 for AMD
ASUS Maximus VII Impact for Intel
Power Supply: Rosewill Silent Night 500W Platinum
Hard Disk: OCZ Vertex 3 256GB OS SSD
Memory: G.Skill 2x4GB DDR3-2133 9-11-10 for AMD
G.Skill 2x4GB DDR3-1866 9-10-9 at 1600 for Intel
Video Cards: MSI GTX 770 Lightning
Video Drivers: NVIDIA Release 349.56 Beta
AMD Catalyst 15.200 Beta
OS: Windows 10 Technical Preview 2 (Build 9926)


Star Swarm CPU Scaling - Extreme Quality - GeForce GTX 770


Star Swarm CPU Scaling - Mid Quality - GeForce GTX 770

Star Swarm CPU Scaling - Low Quality - GeForce GTX 770

To get right down to business then, are AMD’s APUs able to shift the performance bottleneck on to the GPU under DirectX 12? The short answer is yes. Highlighting just how bad the single-threaded performance disparity between Intel and AMD can be under DirectX 11, what is a clear 50%+ lead for the Core i3 with Extreme and Mid qualities becomes a dead heat as all 3 CPUs are able to keep the GPU fully fed. DirectX 12 provides just the kick that the AMD APU setups need to overcome DirectX 11’s CPU submission bottleneck and push it on to the GPU. Consequently at Extreme quality we see a 64% performance increase for the Core i3, but a 170%+ performance increase for the AMD APUs.

The one exception to this is Low quality mode, where the Core i3 retains its lead. Though initially unexpected, examining the batch count differences between Low and Mid qualities gives us a solid explanation as to what’s going on: low pushes relatively few batches. With Extreme quality pushing average batch counts of 90K and Mid pushing 55K, average batch counts under Low are only 20K. With this relatively low batch count the benefits of DirectX 12 are still present but diminished, leading to the CPU no longer choking on batch submission and the bottleneck shifting elsewhere (likely the simulation itself).

Star Swarm CPU Batch Submission Time - Extreme - GeForce GTX 770

Meanwhile batch submission times are consistent between all 3 CPUs, with everyone dropping down from 30ms+ to around 6ms. The fact that AMD no longer lags Intel in batch submission times at this point is very important for AMD, as it means they’re not struggling with individual thread performance nearly as much under DirectX 12 as they were DirectX 11.

Star Swarm GPU Scaling - Mid Quality

Star Swarm GPU Scaling - Low Quality

Finally, taking a look at how performance scales with our GPUs, the results are unsurprising but none the less positive for AMD. Aside from the GTX 770 – which has the most GPU headroom to spare in the first place – both AMD APUs still see significant performance gains from DirectX 12 despite running into a very quick GPU bottleneck. This simple API switch is still enough to get another 44% out of the A10-7800 and 25% out of the A8-7600. So although DirectX 12 is not going to bring the same kind of massive performance improvements to iGPUs that we’ve seen with dGPUs, in extreme cases such as this it still can be highly beneficial. And this still comes without some of the potential fringe benefits of the API, such as shifting the TDP balance from CPU to GPU in TDP-constrained mobile devices.

Looking at the overall picture, just as with our initial article it’s important not to read too much into these results right now. Star Swarm is first and foremost a best case scenario and demonstration for the batch submission benefits of DirectX 12. And though games will still benefit from DirectX 12, they are unlikely to benefit quite as greatly as they do here, thanks in part to the much greater share of non-rendering tasks a CPU would be burdened with in a real game (simulation, AI, audio, etc.).

But with that in mind, our results from bottlenecking AMD’s APUs point to a clear conclusion. Thanks to DirectX 12’s greatly improved threading capabilities, the new API can greatly close the gap between Intel and AMD CPUs. At least so long as you’re bottlenecking at batch submission.

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  • FlushedBubblyJock - Sunday, February 15, 2015 - link

    I bet for the Physx support, nVidia told AMD they needed to send a couple of engineers over so they could hook more than the 1st active core, and AMD sent back a few emails, some paranoia, and no engineers, including maybe a 2 minute rude phone call demanding nVidia do all the work or else...
  • silverblue - Saturday, February 14, 2015 - link

    Well, if AMD drivers use more CPU cycles, it's never going to look good for a current AMD CPU, even an FX8... unless you clock them to buggery.
  • 0VERL0RD - Saturday, February 14, 2015 - link

    lol The review only really tested AMD's driver using the APU's iGpu when they could easily have added AMD dedicated GPU. A review claiming to be AMD DX12 driver related should at least have had a dedicated GPU from AMD somewhere in it.
  • silverblue - Saturday, February 14, 2015 - link

    ...but they did. Did you not see the original article?
  • 0VERL0RD - Saturday, February 14, 2015 - link

    All GPU's tested in original article were using i7-4960X
  • silverblue - Sunday, February 15, 2015 - link

    "A review claiming to be AMD DX12 driver related should at least have had a dedicated GPU from AMD somewhere in it." You didn't mention CPUs.
  • 0VERL0RD - Sunday, February 15, 2015 - link

    Lol Wondered why you referred me to original Review when discussing AMD Apu's. Those discrete results whilst valid only speak for Intel. Wanted to see Apu's using discrete AMD hardware not just Nvidia, who previously have even disabled features when detecting non Nvidia cards on board! Restricting test to Nvidia stops us seeing how Mantle or dual graphics scales on Apu's using DX12 in comparison to AMD dGpu.
  • Pissedoffyouth - Friday, February 13, 2015 - link

    interesting, I have a mini-itx a10-7800 and it plays games well at 1280x1024
  • FlushedBubblyJock - Sunday, February 15, 2015 - link

    HD3000 plays games well too. You have to remember that here and online generally at enthusiast sites, only the greatest framerates at the highest resolutions with the best screen colors and minimum delays get a half nod in between the intense criticism and fan fighting.

    So yes, enjoy your gaming rig.
  • Mat3 - Friday, February 13, 2015 - link

    Nice article. Would really like to see some comparisons with something like an FX-8350..

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