Seek Thermal - Android Infrared Camera Review

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• Phiro69 - Sunday, May 3, 2015 - link

  I think you nailed it on the head, thebeastie. It really smells like the reviewer was told to review it and has no passion/interest in the field.
  
  A review like this would never have seen the light of day under Anand; I believe this is a harbinger of the content of Anandtech now that Anand has left and the site was sold to Tom's Hardware and the new management consists of ex-executives from CNET and Ziff-Davis, I'm removing my Anandtech bookmark. It's been a great ~15 years (yes, I've been reading it that long), but all good things come to an end.
  
  -Kelly Schoenhofen

• ganeshts - Sunday, May 3, 2015 - link

  Kelly, Thanks for your valuable feedback - which, btw, tells me nothing that should have been added to the review.
  
  As for the original comment - I added a new section with pictures after that comment was posted.
  
  I challenge you to find a review of the Seek Thermal camera on any other site which :
  
  1. Gives a concise overview of how thermal imagers operate
  2. Track power consumption numbers of a system to which the Seek Thermal camera attaches itself / app is activated.
  3. Continuous use of the Seek Thermal camera for other reviews (we use it in all our passive PC thermal design evaluation if you can follow the link that has been posted in the review)
  
  The only feedback aspect from other readers - that has been taken note of and immediately responded to (I actually have plenty of thermal images from the Seek Thermal - but, most were taken without the camera image at the same time - so not fit to present for comparison purposes)
  
  I look forward to your response.

• PrinceGaz - Saturday, May 2, 2015 - link

  "The Seek Thermal camera connects to the microUSB port of a smart device, and hence, the measurement of the power consumption of the camera is quite challenging."
  
  Rubbish. Use an in-line USB current monitor, together with the necessary adapters/leads (whichever is most convenient) to connect it to the Android device and the IR camera. That will give a quite accurate continuous reading of how much current the camera itself is using. Given that USB should be more or less 5V, converting that to Watts is straightforwards.
  
  Measuring the voltage and current drain from the Android device's battery as you did introduces not just factors related to the power the tablet itself is using, but also how efficiently it can provide the 5V to the USB socket, which will vary from device to device.

• ganeshts - Saturday, May 2, 2015 - link

  'Challenging' is always relative. Most people don't have the stuff that you mention at hand. Once I had the proper SSH server installed in the tablet, my script to track, record and plot the power consumption took less than 15 minutes. - all I needed was a PC to run the script / SSH client on.
  
  Also, tracking power consumption for the system as a whole makes sense - we don't really know how much of the post processing is done via software on the app side compared to the hardware inside the thermal camera.

• ganeshts - Saturday, May 2, 2015 - link

  Forgot to add: The tracking of the power consumption of the system helps in estimating how much battery life would be impacted if one were to keep, say, running the app's preview from the thermal camera continuously (obviously assuming that the battery capacity is known). Tracking the power consumption of the camera alone doesn't provide much benefit to the readers.

• Shalmanese - Saturday, May 2, 2015 - link

  "A few cases are provided below. It can be seen that the temperature is not very accurate - for example, skin temperature is reported to be around 32 C, when it is obviously around 37 C."
  
  Your internal body temperature is 37C but exposed skin is much cooler, generally around 27 - 35C because it's constantly radiating heat. This can be trivially confirmed by noticing that you armpits and inside of your mouth are much warmer than the back of your hand or your forehead for example.
  
  I just checked with a reference thermometer and the side of my arm was 31C and my cheek was 34C, so a reading of 32C is fairly accurate.

• ganeshts - Saturday, May 2, 2015 - link

  Very much possible. Thank you very much for your feedback. I have updated the relevant section of the piece to refer to the obviously erroneous -13 C in the refrigerator compartment.

• sor - Sunday, May 3, 2015 - link

  Why is ice cream at -13C obviously erroneous? My freezer is set to -18C, and the solids in there are pretty close to that. I would expect the average freezer to be in the -10C to -15C (15 to 5F) range, unless we are talking about a crappy mini fridge/freezer combo.

• sor - Sunday, May 3, 2015 - link

  Oh, I see. You say your freezer is set to 0C, a setting that in practice probably doesn't even keep the contents frozen. In that case it IS off the mark.
  
  Sorry, most freezers I know of in the US have settings around 0F.

• blue_urban_sky - Tuesday, May 5, 2015 - link

  It does look like you have something in the fridge at around 6 deg C which will kick on the cooling. I would imagine that it has a binary cooling system that is cycled to maintain the approximate temp. This may mean that -13 is not so far out.
  
  You could invest in a cheap thermometer from amazon ;)