We're back! On the list for this episode are Google Glass, Google IO, the HTC One/SGS4 Google Play Edition, Galaxy NX, Galaxy S 4 Active, Snapdragon 800, Exynos 5 Octa, WWDC, Haswell ULT, ARM vs. Intel and the Xbox One vs. PS4.

The AnandTech Podcast - Episode 21
featuring Anand Shimpi, Brian Klug

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Total Time:  2 hours 6 minutes

Outline h:mm

Google Glass - 0:00
Google IO - 0:20
HTC/Samsung GPe - 0:23
Samsung Galaxy NX - 0:43
SGS4 Active - 0:51
Snapdragon 800 - 0:59
Exynos 5 Octa - 1:12
WWDC - 1:20
Haswell ULT Platform Power vs. iPad 4 - 1:26
ARM and Intel in the Smartphone/Tablet Space - 1:30
Xbox One/PS4 - 1:43


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  • Krysto - Sunday, June 30, 2013 - link

    Anand, did you forget ARM chips will be 20nm next year, while Intel's Merrifield will be 22nm? You were talking as if Intel will have an advantage in process for smartphones next year. It won't. Reply
  • blanarahul - Sunday, June 30, 2013 - link

    22 nm + FinFET + HKMG v/s 20 nm
    Plus, I'm not even sure if the first products based on 20 nm chips will use HKMG or not.
  • blanarahul - Sunday, June 30, 2013 - link

    Did some research. It's:-
    Intel:- 22 nm + 1st gen FinFET + 3rd gen HKMG
    TSMC:- 20 nm + 2nd gen HKMG
  • Sprigjr - Sunday, June 30, 2013 - link

    almost forgot yalls voices, glad to see your back. you make setting up for work a little less tedious. Reply
  • KaliszAd - Sunday, June 30, 2013 - link

    Brian, why don't you get a Nokia Lumia 920? It's rugged phone by default, maybe not water resistant but I left it in snow for about 20 - 30 Minutes by mistake and it didn't even turn off. The Lumia also didn't break, and I tell you, I dropped it several times on different surfaces from about face - height.

    I believe, Lumia EOS with the 41MP sensor will be also as good as Galaxy Camera/ Galaxy NX, because it will still be great phone and a decent camera and still quite rugged.
    Maybe, I am biased a bit - Microsoft really has to do a lot of work and polish on Windows Phone
  • dealcorn - Monday, July 1, 2013 - link

    Anand, give some thought to how successful ARM has been with n-1 foundries. Once a foundry becomes fully depreciated, it's cost to produce a SoC drops dramatically. It is a key to ARM's $10 SoC's.

    Until Baytrail, Intel has never had a n-1 product that could compete in the tablet space. When Clovertrail+ becomes n-1, it's cost drops dramatically and under classic microelectronic theory, Intel is supposed to use it to trash the profitability of the tablet middle market. Clovertrail+ is your missing third Intel architecture. The Street cares more about market share than profit margin on products from Intel's obsolete fabs.
  • entrer1 - Tuesday, July 2, 2013 - link

    @ps4/Xbox 1. One thing that confuses me, if you saw e3 the Xbox 1 games looked real good in my book pertaining to graphics and frame rate. If you look at forza compared to drive club , both first party games, forza looked to be maintaining 60fps and running in 1080p where as drive club club did not look no where near as amazing as forza and also was struggling to maintain 30fps. Does Sony really have a huge real world performance advantage over Xbox 1? Or at the end of the day is it all smoke and mirrors? Not a fan boy BTW. I own both current generation condoles now. I am a huge fps multiplayer gamer though and am really liking the idea of Xbox 1 providing dedicated servers. Can not stand peer to peer connections. Reply
  • pdjblum - Wednesday, July 3, 2013 - link

    It is odd that a website that has a large enthusiast reader base and reviews enthusiast gear believes that hardcore gamers choose to game on xbox or play station. It is odd that all Brian's friends who he calls "gamers" game on consoles. And it is odd that Anand pretty much plays Halo on xbox. Really! It is even odder that Brian would put a console on his desk and hook it up to his monitor instead of use his pc to game. Not only is the new look for advertisers rather than readers, but this is now pretty much a gadget/mobile site catering to, I guess, not enthusiasts. Reply
  • jeffkoe - Friday, July 5, 2013 - link

    Enjoy the teckie info included in your podcasts. Thank you, host (not sure of everyone's name) for explaining acronyms and higher technical references. Brian is enjoyable, but can get a bit tedious with rants. Overall very enjoyable! Reply
  • pdjblum - Saturday, July 6, 2013 - link

    Obviously Brian is smart and I do love his rants. However, he is obviously not smart enough to explain complicated concepts in simple terms so that he would not need to disparage people for not getting it the first time. Really, Brian, you are just a rude, arrogant, condescending punk. You are way too full of yourself. But I do love your honesty and your rants. Of course the vast majority of people are pretty stupid, but they don't need to be reminded of that by a punk such as yourself. Reply

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