Intel Haswell GT3e GPU Performance Compared to NVIDIA's GeForce GT 650M
by Anand Lal Shimpi on January 9, 2013 4:22 PM EST- Posted in
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- Intel
- Haswell
- Trade Shows
- CES 2013
Haswell isn't expected to launch until the beginning of June in desktops and quad-core notebooks, but Intel is beginning to talk performance. Intel used a mobile customer reference board in a desktop chassis featuring Haswell GT3 with embedded DRAM (the fastest Haswell GPU configuration that Intel will ship) and compared it to an ASUS UX15 with on-board NVIDIA GeForce GT 650M.
Despite the chassis difference, Intel claims it will be able to deliver the same performance from the demo today in an identical UX15 chassis by the time Haswell ships.
The video below shows Dirt 3 running at 1080p on both systems, with identical detail settings (High Quality presets, no AA, vsync off). Intel wouldn't let us report performance numbers, but subjectively the two looked to deliver very similar performance. Note that I confirmed all settings myself and ran both games myself independently of the demo. You can be the judge using the video below:
Intel wouldn't let us confirm clock speeds on Haswell vs. the Core i7 (Ivy Bridge) system, but it claimed that the Haswell part was the immediate successor to its Ivy Bridge comparison point.
As proof of Haswell's ability to fit in a notebook chassis, it did have another demo using older Haswell silicon running Call of Duty: Black Ops 2 in a notebook chassis.
Haswell GT3e's performance looked great for processor graphics. I would assume that overall platform power would be reduced since you wouldn't have a discrete GPU inside, however there's also the question of the cost of the solution. I do expect that NVIDIA will continue to drive discrete GPU performance up, but as a solution for some of the thinner/space constrained form factors (think 13-inch MacBook Pro with Retina Display, maybe 11-inch Ultrabook/MacBook Air?) Haswell could be a revolutionary step forward.
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jamyryals - Friday, January 11, 2013 - link
I enjoy Intel's products, and they are masters of execution. However, this Cerise guy has ruined the comments in this post. No one can have any kind of discussion with him polluting the threads.Thanks to javascript, I will be auto hiding his comments from the DOM.
silverblue - Saturday, January 12, 2013 - link
Oh, how I envy you. :(dj christian - Monday, January 14, 2013 - link
Just try to ignore him! He's just a immature teenager.CeriseCogburn - Friday, February 1, 2013 - link
That's "an".Being correct all the time and correcting the emotionally controlled blabbering idiots is AN adult's vocation.
7beauties - Sunday, January 13, 2013 - link
I couldn't tell the difference in the demo video, but I'm a firm believer in the superiority of discreet GPU's which have unrivaled high-end solutions, such as AMD's 7990 and Nvidia's GTX 590. Nonetheless, it's nice to know that integrated graphics has come a long way.CeriseCogburn - Thursday, February 14, 2013 - link
Nvidia's GTX 690....It's not your fault the amd fanboys have his the fastest card in the world from you.
lmcd - Monday, January 14, 2013 - link
Umm, an A10m Trinity almost hits a GT 640m, which in turn, clocked up, constitutes a 650m. Meanwhile, GCN destroyed VLIW4 solutions. Haswell's graphics aren't making as much ground as this video suggests, and settings and/or game selection also suggest possibly a lower resolution to prevent memory bandwidth from being a bottleneck.silverblue - Tuesday, January 15, 2013 - link
I haven't seen any evidence of the A10-4600M beating a GT630M setup. If you have a link or two, I'd be very happy to see it. :)Notebookcheck have a huge number of benchmarks, and although I cannot see what CPU is being paired with the GT630M, it's a very interesting source of information:
http://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-Radeon-HD-7660G.6...
What I wouldn't mind seeing is how the A10-4600M handles a GT630M as its discrete card; does it limit performance or is that only something you're going to notice with faster cards?
tech.noob.fella - Tuesday, January 15, 2013 - link
hey guys please help me i need to know a few things....i wanted to know if there is any importance of integrated graphics in a computer if it has discrete graphics in it....i'm asking because i wanted to know if i should go for the series 7 chronos with high end discrete graphics card with average integrated graphics or wait for haswell graphics with better integrated graphics and mid range discrete gpu.....
in short, will there be any significant difference btwn current hd 4000 and upcoming haswell gpu??
peterfares - Tuesday, January 15, 2013 - link
If you have a high end dedicated graphics then obviously that would be used when doing anything graphically intensive and the HD4000 is more than sufficient for desktop usage. It may be worth it to wait for other reasons, though.