Intel Haswell GT3e GPU Performance Compared to NVIDIA's GeForce GT 650M
by Anand Lal Shimpi on January 9, 2013 4:22 PM EST- Posted in
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- Intel
- Haswell
- Trade Shows
- CES 2013
Haswell isn't expected to launch until the beginning of June in desktops and quad-core notebooks, but Intel is beginning to talk performance. Intel used a mobile customer reference board in a desktop chassis featuring Haswell GT3 with embedded DRAM (the fastest Haswell GPU configuration that Intel will ship) and compared it to an ASUS UX15 with on-board NVIDIA GeForce GT 650M.
Despite the chassis difference, Intel claims it will be able to deliver the same performance from the demo today in an identical UX15 chassis by the time Haswell ships.
The video below shows Dirt 3 running at 1080p on both systems, with identical detail settings (High Quality presets, no AA, vsync off). Intel wouldn't let us report performance numbers, but subjectively the two looked to deliver very similar performance. Note that I confirmed all settings myself and ran both games myself independently of the demo. You can be the judge using the video below:
Intel wouldn't let us confirm clock speeds on Haswell vs. the Core i7 (Ivy Bridge) system, but it claimed that the Haswell part was the immediate successor to its Ivy Bridge comparison point.
As proof of Haswell's ability to fit in a notebook chassis, it did have another demo using older Haswell silicon running Call of Duty: Black Ops 2 in a notebook chassis.
Haswell GT3e's performance looked great for processor graphics. I would assume that overall platform power would be reduced since you wouldn't have a discrete GPU inside, however there's also the question of the cost of the solution. I do expect that NVIDIA will continue to drive discrete GPU performance up, but as a solution for some of the thinner/space constrained form factors (think 13-inch MacBook Pro with Retina Display, maybe 11-inch Ultrabook/MacBook Air?) Haswell could be a revolutionary step forward.
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wsw1982 - Thursday, January 10, 2013 - link
You really demand a tablet level IGP could have GT650M level performance? Then ask nvidia about IGP in tegra 4 that's where the 8w haswell is targeting...CeriseCogburn - Sunday, January 13, 2013 - link
Did someone say tegra4 ?http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2013/01/ces-2013han...
STREAMS games from your PC over wifi
Another great nVidia invention coming soon
PROJECT SHIELD ( to be renamed before release according to reports )
tygrus - Wednesday, January 9, 2013 - link
Hey Anand,Any idea of average frame rates or subjective view of the fluidity of the demo ?
Are you saying the GT3e was better, same or worse than the GT650M in this demo ?
Do you think the settings and game selected would create a very low bar for Intel to get over ? eg. 650M could have averaged 10fps faster than the GT3e but you can't visually discern this (ie. without app to measure fps).
madmilk - Wednesday, January 9, 2013 - link
GT 650M should be well over 60fps at these settings. So yeah, not a very useful visual benchmark...CeriseCogburn - Thursday, January 10, 2013 - link
It appeared to me the 650M was a bit faster.The kicker is the 650M is darn good and a lot of the public would be gaming pleased, so this all bodes too well for Intel.
Hence the entire thread has been whining and moaning and shrieking not fair, fake, it's a lie, marketing... on and on...
I'm getting a BIG kick out of it.
Intel was smart enough to use an nVidia product to whoop on, instead of crossing into the raging amd fanboy arena by taking on some amd chunkage. Very wise Intel. I thank Intel for sparing us.
LOL
jwcalla - Thursday, January 10, 2013 - link
If your takeaway from this article is that Intel "whooped" the 650M, then that's evidence that ambiguous articles like these create a misleading narrative.You're precisely the type of gullible moron that Intel targeted with this article.
I'm sure the GT3e is great, but let's not get carried away by these demos that are strictly orchestrated by the manufacturer... and maybe actually wait for something concrete before heralding the doom of nvidia.
CeriseCogburn - Friday, January 11, 2013 - link
I'm the gullible idiot that took this sites FOUNDER at his word who personally tested the two configurations and VERIFIED they performed "very similarly".Thanks though, for all of you, who have, unwittingly, and in absolute driven biased hatred, claimed the master of this website is a completely clueless lying duped fool.
Good job, I'm more than certain you've got a handle on reality.....
N O T
BTW your stupid pic is a perfect fit
I mean you people are truly so dumbed down, it is unbelievable.
Spunjji - Friday, January 11, 2013 - link
I'm not sure how much Anand plays games these days, but for my part I wouldn't personally verify that I can tell the difference between, say, 80fps and 50fps while watching a time demo. They would look "very similar" to me. The devil is in the details.CeriseCogburn - Friday, January 11, 2013 - link
ANOTHER FRIKKIN MORONdid you read the aticle ? heck no !
did you notice him say he played the games separate fro the demo ?
HECK NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Are you an idiot ?
Since your fps detection is so bad I'll just assume that's why you can't read articles either.
CeriseCogburn - Friday, January 11, 2013 - link
LOL - my quote, first line of what you responded to: " It appeared to me the 650M was a bit faster. "Fanboy problems in the brain ?