PCIe 3.0 vs. PCIe 2.0

As part of our testing on the X79 Extreme11, we decided to test both PCIe 2.0 and PCIe 3.0 scenarios.  Due to the PLX chips onboard giving us a full x16/x16/x16/x16 minus any PLX latency, it should give a rough idea of how these two technologies perform.  Our testing incorporated each benchmark at 2560x1440 using full eye candy settings.  Here are our results, indicated by percentage difference of PCIe 3.0 over PCIe 2.0:

PCIe 3.0 vs. PCIe 2.0
2560x1440, Full AA/AF
ASRock X79 Extreme11
x16/x16/x16/x16
  Metro 2033 Dirt3
1x 7970 -0.3% +3.8%
2x 7970 +2.6% +4.3%
3x 7970 +1.2% +4.2%
4x 7970 +1.9% +0.5%

As we can see, there is an improvement for Dirt3 and Metro2033, though the difference is barely noticable. The effect of PCIe 3.0 depends on the different engines using DirectX and OpenGL – each system, and thus each gaming engine, uses the PCIe bus differently.  In the games where the PCIe bus is used extensively, then PCIe 3.0 will win out.  Otherwise we are at the whim of statistical variation between runs.

Dirt 3

Dirt 3 is a rallying video game and the third in the Dirt series of the Colin McRae Rally series, developed and published by Codemasters.  Using the in game benchmark, Dirt 3 is run at 2560x1440 with full graphical settings.  Results are reported as the average frame rate across four runs.

Dirt 3 - One 7972

Dirt 3 - Two 7972

Dirt 3 - Three 7972

Dirt 3 - Four 7972

Due to the PLX chips, we would expect the X79 Extreme11 to fall behind slightly in single and dual GPU performance, which is confirmed in the benchmark results.  In four-way GPU however, the X79 board falls behind some Z77 boards.

Dirt 3 - One 580

Dirt 3 - Two 580

Using NVIDIA GPUs, Dirt3 is still agnostic to any CPU or PCIe performance.

Metro2033

Metro2033 is a DX11 benchmark that challenges every system that tries to run it at any high-end settings.  Developed by 4A Games and released in March 2010, we use the inbuilt DirectX 11 Frontline benchmark to test the hardware at 2560x1440 with full graphical settings.  Results are given as the average frame rate from 4 runs.

Metro2033 - One 7972

Metro2033 - Two 7972

Metro2033 - Three 7972

Metro2033 - Four 7972

Metro 2033 mirrors similar findings from Dirt3 - the ASRock cannot keep pace with the other boards.  This must suggest that having dual PLX chips offers a much bigger hit to frame rates than previously thought.

Metro2033 - One 580

Metro2033 - Two 580

Computation Benchmarks Testing the LSI SAS 2308 PCIe Controller
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  • cjs150 - Tuesday, September 4, 2012 - link

    All those right angled, stacked SATA connectors and the 24 pin ATX connector is still sticking straight up!

    Come on, it costs little to make this a right angled connector and makes for much better cable management (especially if you are also using all the SATA connectors)

    Has anyone checked the accuracy of the ASRock Hardware monitor for temperatures? There are reports that on other ASRock board these are significantly inaccurate.

    Ultimately other than M/B p#rn not really sure what market this board is aimed at. For a workstation I would prefer dual CPUs and 48 PCI lanes
  • dgingeri - Tuesday, September 4, 2012 - link

    I think that LSI 2308 chip is the same as the chip used in Dell's PERC H310 controller, with slightly different firmware/bios. (Dell customizes theirs to call it a PERC and label it as a Dell controller, but it is still labeled as a LSI copyright.) If so, that's a very good controller, from my experience.
  • ComputerGuy2006 - Tuesday, September 4, 2012 - link

    I want Ivy Bridge-E, not going to go from 1336 setup to x79 setup without knowing if ivy-e is even coming out (much less if it will work on the same mobo)
  • dgingeri - Tuesday, September 4, 2012 - link

    With AMD providing absolutely no competition in this space, I would say it is unlikely they'll come out with any updates worthy of spending money. Think of the time with the P4 while AMD wasn't providing competition. Intel put out processors from 2.8 to 3.8GHz over the course of 2 years which cost more and gobbled up more electricity, yet provided minimal performance enhancement. (iirc, the 3.8GHz chip was only about 10% faster than the 2.8GHz chip because of memory bandwidth limitations and thermal throttling, yet Intel charged more than double the intro price than the 2.8GHz for the 3.8GHz chip.) Intel without competition is just a money hog, gobbling up more and more money with little to show for it. I doubt Haswell with be anything special, either. IB certainly isn't.

    Oh, yeah, they say Haswell will be 10% faster than IB at the same clock rate. While AMD was providing competition, they were putting out things that ran 50-60% faster per clock, and had faster clock rates to boot. So, at the price point, we'd get a 75-100% boost per generation. (Core 2 had a drop in clock rate, sure, but it was WAY faster than the P4, giving us a 80%+ performance boost at the same clock rate. Coppermine was a huge boost in both clock rate and efficiency. Katmai was a huge boost in clock rate and efficiency. Same with Klamath and Deschutes. Yet, the P4 generation was a huge stall point, and also the point where most of Intel competitors got out of the race and AMD was way behind.)

    I wish someone would come into the market and provide an little incentive to get Intel to move their butts forward, but we're not going to see that for probably another decade.
  • Master_shake_ - Tuesday, September 4, 2012 - link

    problem is Intel won't allow any more companies to get the x86 license to make desktop/notebook cpus.

    i want Nvidia to make one just to have a 3rd choice.
  • fteoath64 - Thursday, September 6, 2012 - link

    "i want Nvidia to make one just to have a 3rd choice.".

    Yeah, then Nvidia buys VIA and starts making NV-nano as the Tegra3 of x86 for the super tablets that would be weight compatible with current 10.1 Android/iOS tablet ..... {pipe dream ...}

    Nvidia doing a x86 and ARM hybrid processor would be really cool for a new generation of UltraBooks that does Win8 and Android together. Imagine when docked you have both Win8 (external monitor) and ICS/JB on tablet with touch. Win8 tablets being much thicker plas plenty of space for 2 SDcard slots and 2 MicroSD slots.
  • fteoath64 - Saturday, July 12, 2014 - link

    When the discrete gpu market for high-end notebooks dries up, then Nvidia might make a VIA play. For now, they cannot afford such an investment especially when they had sunk millions on Denver (Arm V8) 64-bit arm with the K1. IF they produce a great Arm 64bit core, then they might have a great chance on the tablet and high-end mobile market. Also, left over for the low-end and microserver market.
  • Frallan - Wednesday, September 5, 2012 - link

    I was complaining the other day about AT becoming an iSite talking more about iWare than anything else.

    My honesty compels me to write in after the last few days and apologize. There has been a number of good interesting computer and component articles the last week that proved me wrong.

    Thank you AT and keep the good work up.
  • BlueReason - Wednesday, September 5, 2012 - link

    "ASRock have potentially missed a trick here"

    It's becoming trendy for American-based tech blogs to use the British standard for subject/verb agreement when it comes to businesses. You could debate what it ought to be all day, but American professional writing standards dictate that companies be referred to as a singular entity. You can do whatever you like, of course, but just an fyi in case you submit a piece to a major American publication. They won't see your usage as fancy.
  • Razorbak86 - Monday, September 24, 2012 - link

    "Lighten up, Francis." -- Sergeant Hulka, Stripes (1981).

    Although you may view Ian Cutress' prose as "fancy", he was hardly being pretentious. He lives in London, and he was educated at the University of Oxford. That might not mean much to you, but feel free to Google a map or two and educate yourself about world geography.

    I lived and worked in the United Kingdom for 5 years as an American expatriate. My daughter was born in Aberdeen, Scotland, and my kids grew up with British accents. I can assure you that it is standard practice in the United Kingdom to refer to companies in the plural. Fortunately for me, the British people were very gracious hosts. Despite the subtle differences between my American dialect and the Queen's English, they always treated me and my family with great respect throughout our stay.

    So please be a little more polite when referring to one of the Senior Editors of AnandTech. You are, after all, communicating in HIS native tongue, not yours. ;-p

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