ASUS P8Z77-V Deluxe - In The Box

When someone shoves a $275 motherboard in your face, you want to know why it costs $275.  On board features is one thing, but if a manufacturer can add some extra goodies in the box as well, it can only sweeten the deal.  If we note that ASUS has already plastered the Deluxe with features (as well as ASUS Premium Service for North America returns), and previous boxes from ASUS have been filled with goodies, I would be expecting something in our box for the Deluxe.

Driver CD
User Guide
Six SATA cables, right angled + locking
SLI Bridge
Q-Connectors
ASUS WiFi GO! Card
WiFi Magnetic Antenna

 

The big part of the box is the WiFi connector, as well as the antenna.  SATA cables can be as cheap as chips (as some manufacturers do), but the ASUS ones feel sturdy.  Overall, I am perhaps a little disappointed - a USB 3.0 bracket would have been a nice addition.

Voltage Readings

After my last publication of OCCT voltage readings, a few readers responded with a more in-depth reasoning behind some of the results we were seeing.  With this in mind, I would like to re-describe what we are doing with this test, and how it comes about.

Much of what an enthusiast overclocker does is monitor CPU temperature and voltage.  Whatever settings a user places in the BIOS or OS is at the mercy of the motherboard - in terms of actually setting the values and reporting the values back.   As an enthusiast, we have to rely on what readings we get back, and hope that motherboard manufacturers are being honest with their readings.

Take CPU voltage.  What we as a user see in CPU-Z or OCCT is a time-averaged value that hides voltage ripple (if any) for power delivery.  It is very easy for a motherboard manufacturer to hide this value, or to disregard slight deviations and report a constant value to the user.  The CPU voltage reading can be taken at a variety of places on the power plane, which can vary between motherboards and manufacturers, meaning that each reading is essentially not comparable with the other.  Nevertheless, as an enthusiast, we will constantly compare value A with value B. 

Whether or not I can achieve 4.7 GHz with 1.175 volts on a particular board is inconsequential - your motherboard may perhaps produce the same result with a reading at 1.200 volts.  The only way to test the actual value is with consistent methodology is via an oscilloscope connected to similar points on each board.  This may sound like taking an OCCT reading is therefore redundant.

However, motherboards have settings relating to load line calibration.  As load is applied to the CPU, the voltage across the processor decreases (VDroop).  Load Line calibration essentially attempts to control this level of droop, by increasing voltage when voltage drops are detected away from a fixed value.  Manufacturers have different ideas on how to modify LLC with respect to load, or whether the level of modification should be controlled by the user.  Some manufacturers offer the option at a variety of levels, such that overclockers can be sure of the applied setting (even if it increases peak voltage, as explained by AnandTech in 2007).

By doing a full load OCCT test, we are essentially determining both how aggressive the motherboard is reporting the CPU voltage under load and how aggressive load line calibration is performing (from the point of view of the user without an oscilloscope or DVM).  If someone has one of the motherboards we have tested and you have a different one, variations in load voltage should describe the offset you may require for overclock comparisons.

  Reported Load Voltage / V
ASRock Z77 Extreme4 1.054
ASUS P8Z77-V Pro 1.090
Gigabyte Z77X-UD3H 1.067
MSI Z77A-GD65 1.020
ASUS P8Z77-V Deluxe 1.085

 

Overclocking

Note: Ivy Bridge does not overclock like Sandy Bridge.  For a detailed report on the effect of voltage on Ivy Bridge (and thus temperatures and power draw), please read Undervolting and Overclocking on Ivy Bridge.

ASUS overclocking features should be a cemented experience in our minds now.  For automatic overclocks there are essentially two settings - 'Fast' (implemented by either TPU switch on board, OC Tuner in BIOS, or 'Fast' setting in AI Suite) and 'Extreme' ('Extreme' setting in AI Suite).  Manual overclocks are mostly performed in the BIOS, with TurboV Evo in the OS useful for testing limits in the OS in order to apply them in the BIOS.

Automatic Overclock: In the Fast setting, the system boots at the 41x multiplier and 103 MHz BCLK, giving 4223 MHz total overclock.  This represents a 20% boost over the 3.5 GHz default speed of the i7-3770K - this setting gives 1.128 V at load, and a peak temperature of 71C in OCCT.

For the Extreme setting, the OS boots with 41x and 103 MHz (4223 MHz), and performs CPU multiplier testing.  At each ratio the voltage is slightly increased and the CPU and memory are loaded to find instability.  The system blue screened at 45x, causing the system to reboot at 44x and 103 MHz (4532 MHz).  The system then performed BCLK tuning, which blue screened at 106.6 MHz.  The system then rebooted to give a final overclock of 44x and 104.4 MHz, giving 4602 MHz overall.  At this setting however, the system reported 1.272 V at load and a peak 94ºC during OCCT.  This extreme setting is truly extreme(!), but remember that the suggested maximum temperature of Ivy Bridge is 105ºC (whether you would want it that high is up to you).

Manual Overclock: Due to the way that Ivy Bridge processors behave with excessive voltage, our testing Ivy Bridge is more of a test of scale rather than overclock.  For each multiplier above 45x, we test at what voltage this multiplier becomes stable, until an unreasonable temperature.  Please note that our testing is done with the Intel All-in-One Liquid cooler on an open test bed with default fan settings.  With the ASUS P8Z77-V Deluxe, we enabled Manual mode on AI Overclock Tuner, adjusted the Turbo Ratio 1-Core Limit, and modified the CPU Voltage.  Internal PLL Overvoltage was also enabled.

4.5 GHz was achieved at 1.125 volts, which showed 1.128 volts at load and a peak 74ºC/71ºC in PovRay/OCCT.

4.6 GHz was achieved at 1.150 volts, which showed 1.152 volts at load and a peak 78ºC/77ºC in PovRay/OCCT.

4.7 GHz was achieved at 1.225 volts, which showed 1.224 volts at load and a peak 89ºC/84ºC in PovRay/OCCT.

4.8 GHz was almost stable at 1.300 volts (1.304 volts at load), but when it hit 100ºC in PovRay it decided to give a memory error.

ASUS P8Z77-V Deluxe BIOS and Software Test Setup, Power Consumption, POST Time, Overclocks
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  • IanCutress - Monday, May 14, 2012 - link

    We tested both, as there is two green lines in that graph. Whereas the Realtek seems to win out in pure throughput in our testing, the Intel other has more configurable advantages analogous to Intel NICs.
    Many thanks for the correction :)

    Ian
  • BrunoLogan - Saturday, May 12, 2012 - link

    I'm thinking about building a new machine with the standard version of this board. As we're going to have a new micro architecture next year, I consider pricier boards as throwing money out the door. It will only be useful for Ivy Bridge generation. Next upgrade and you'll have to trash it because Intel will surely change the socket.
  • justaviking - Saturday, May 12, 2012 - link

    Based largely on the Z77 motherboard roundup a few days ago (May 7) I ordered the ASUS P8Z77-V Pro to go with a i7-3770k processor. I have one legacy board (a video capture card) that is important to me, so I HAD to have a regular PCI slot. And when the price dropped $25, I said "woo hoo!" and ordered it.

    The performance against the Deluxe has really made me feel good today. I should have both the CPU and motherboard in a few days.
  • brickman - Saturday, May 12, 2012 - link

    Same here. Quickly grabbed that V-Pro for $210. Although I'll be using an i7 2700K

    ASUS seems to be really standing out with the motherboard features. Integrated wireless without a slot being taken is a big plus. Also WiFI go will be great for my ASUS transformer tablet.
  • gldg - Saturday, May 12, 2012 - link

    I noticed that the memory sticks listed in the test setup are both quad channel. Is that a goofed link or can you put quad channel in the dual channel Z77 chipset?

    Also, could someone tell me what happens when you put 1.65V sticks in this board? I've seen alot of warnings around using 1.65V kits with Ivy...if I put (for example) 2800 1.65V RAM in, can I set it to 1600 and 1.5V in the BIOS?
  • KivBlue - Saturday, May 12, 2012 - link

    I don't see how 1.65V RAM would be an issue, that's the highest Voltage recommended by Ivy Bridge CPU. It also officially supports up to 1600mhz, but Sandy Bridge only supported up to 1333mhz yet there were no issues with people using 1600mhz RAM with Sandy Bridge. If the mobo supports RAM overclock of 2800 I don't see a problem, but it's either going to not work with Ivy Bridge or won't make much of an actual performance boost.
  • Azethoth - Monday, May 14, 2012 - link

    It is not a goofed link. My ASUS P8Z77-V Deluxe has 4x8=32Gb (G.SKILL Trident X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 2400 (PC3 19200) Desktop Memory Model F3-2400C10D-16GTX).

    If you read the launch lineup, Asus actually did something special with memory. Instead of serial access they parallelized it which means their timings are tighter than the old scheme and they are getting stable overclocks to 2800. Also, you are not penalized for populating all 4 slots. Their 2800 G.Skill qualified memory was with 4x4 dimms: http://dlcdnet.asus.com/pub/ASUS/mb/LGA1155/P8Z77-...

    The Trident X they did that with does not show up on any online store yet which is why I went with 2 sets of the DDR3 2400 kit from newegg.
  • IanCutress - Monday, May 14, 2012 - link

    Hi gldg,

    There was an error in my test setup. For Ivy I am using F3-19200CL9Q-16GBZMD (4x4 GB kit) and F3-2666C11D-8GTXD (2x4 GB Kit) - first for 16 GB compatibility (that kit is notorious on certain boards) and the second for speed testing.

    There should be no issues putting a quad channel kit in a dual channel board. The number of channels is determined by the CPU probing the memory at boot, not the memory telling the system how many channels to run in. Hence why you can run Quad channel kits in X79 with 1-3 sticks for single to tri-channel respectively. It's all mix and match now :)

    All the best,
    Ian
  • gldg - Monday, May 14, 2012 - link

    Thanks Kiv, Aze and Ian. Re. the voltage, I had glanced at the QVL but I wasn't sure if it was a case of Asus telling me I *could* get those speeds and volts under the right circumstances, versus Intel telling me *should* stay below their official recommended max of 1.5V. It's been a few chipsets since I've built a full enthusiast rig and wasn't sure how everything would behave at default.

    The quad channel issue is good to know and opens up bunches of more options. Any reason why there's no 32GB kits listed on the QVL at any speed?

    Thanks for a great review Ian.
  • Azethoth - Wednesday, May 16, 2012 - link

    Now that you mention it they did not qualify any 8GB dimms.

    Well, anecdotaly, the kit I linked is running at its rated 2400 clock speed. There is something weird with the bios not automatically running it at high speed but there is a single bios setting to crank it up with.

    Maybe it is just a pure cost thing. Not testing 8GB kit saves money and 32GB ran me over $400. On the other hand, if your kit makes the grade it is pure free advertising so memory vendors probably provide them for free. G.Skill will probably clean up this cycle since they got the high score.

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