Mobile Sandy Bridge: Why You Don’t Need a Desktop

As usual, we’ll start with our application results. Sandy Bridge is fast on the desktop, particularly if you’re an enthusiast interested in overclocking; shift over to the mobile world and the quad-core versions are downright revolutionary. The only fly in the ointment here is that with the use of a discrete GPU and no switchable graphics, users lose access to Intel’s Quick Sync technology. I’ve been using that to encode videos for the family, and the result is several times faster than even my overclocked i7-965 system. Then again, I usually just start the encode/upload task and walk away; besides, the video editing process is far more time intensive than the encoding/uploading part, but I digress.

Here’s how the Eurocom Racer stacks up to the competition, and it’s going to look a lot like the other SNB i7-2630QM and i7-2720QM notebooks, albeit slightly faster than the former. The Eurocom results are in green, MSI's GT680R is in Red, and the Clevo P170HM is in black.

Futuremark PCMark Vantage

Futuremark PCMark05

3D Rendering - CINEBENCH R10

3D Rendering - CINEBENCH R10

Video Encoding - x264

Video Encoding - x264

Even without an SSD, Sandy Bridge manages to pull out some impressive numbers. Interestingly, the P150HM, aka Racer, surpasses the larger P170HM in PCMark Vantage and PCMark05. How does it manage that without an SSD when the P170HM system includes a C300? Simple: it has a hybrid hard drive, the Seagate Momentus XT. Since we run PCMark (and all of our tests) more than once, the Momentus XT is able to optimize storage and put the frequently used apps into flash memory. An SSD will still be faster overall, but hybrid storage solutions can certainly close the gap and strike a nice balance of price, capacity, and performance. Now if we could just get a hybrid with more than 4GB of flash, I'd be happy.

Most of the remaining application benchmarks have the Racer and P170HM running neck and neck, though the first pass of x264 encoding shows another large margin of victory. It’s not clear if that’s another instance of the Momentus XT helping out, or if the 2720QM’s Turbo modes were just more successful in this instance, but the more intensive second pass puts things back where we’d expect. It does look to be more of the XT rather than Turbo Boost, as while the reported score is from the first of four consecutive runs (i.e. when Turbo is at its best), the worst results for x264 encoding are still 83.0 and 26.07. Let’s move on to 3DMark for a quick preview of graphics performance before we get to the actual gaming results.

Futuremark 3DMark Vantage

Futuremark 3DMark Vantage

Futuremark 3DMark06

Futuremark 3DMark05

Futuremark 3DMark03

And this, folks, is why we don’t rely too heavily on 3DMark results. 3DMark almost raises more questions than answers, with the margin of victory for the GTX 485M ranging from 41% in Entry-Level Vantage to a tie in 3DMark06, and even a 12% loss in 3DMark03. We could say that gaming requirements are also variable, so just because one title happens to run well with NVIDIA doesn’t mean every title will go the same way, and that would be true. We can also throw out Entry Vantage and 3DMark03 as meaningless tests for this level of GPU; the Vantage Performance preset shows a much more reasonable 17% lead for the 485M.

On the other hand, one thing should be abundantly clear: given the apparently similar pricing, the 6970M is set to pummel the GTX 460M in most workloads. Outside of Entry Vantage and 3DMark03, the 6970M leads the fastest 460M system by at least 16% (3DMark05) and as much as 44% (Vantage Performance). But rather than guessing as to which version of 3DMark is the most meaningful for gamers, let’s just turn to some actual games.

Internals, Noise, Temperatures, and Analysis Gaming Performance: HD 6970M Nipping at the Heels of GTX 485M
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  • 5150Joker - Thursday, March 17, 2011 - link

    Jarred,

    Some of those engineering sample 6970M's have 1120 shaders vs 960 shaders found in the retail ones. It could explain why Eurocomm may be pushing those in their X7200.
  • JarredWalton - Friday, March 18, 2011 - link

    Possibly, but the retail units won't be 1120, and they'll likely use less power and run cooler/quieter. The unit I have was 960 shaders, though, so at least that's correct.
  • 5150Joker - Thursday, March 17, 2011 - link

    At the end of your article you say: "Now all we need to see is more mainstream notebooks like the ASUS G53/G73 and Alienware M15x/M17x add support for AMD’s latest tour de force."

    FYI: Dell/Alienware is the first OEM to offer RETAIL 6970M GPU's in their Alienware M17x-r3 notebooks. Not only that, they offer integrated graphics support (SB IGP) that switches on the fly and can last up to 4+ hours on battery. In fact I'm using an M17x-R3 to type on right now and will be doing a review on it on my site (techinferno.com).
  • Aankhen - Friday, March 18, 2011 - link

    1080p on a 15″ screen? I feel sorry for anyone using it. o_o
  • piroroadkill - Friday, March 18, 2011 - link

    Pff..

    I have an old Dell Latitude D800, 1920x1200 on a 15.4" screen, which is slightly more dense than this! It's fine =D
  • Hrel - Friday, March 18, 2011 - link

    I was told my both cyberpowerpc.com and xoticpc.com that this chassis using a GTX460M gpu supports Optimus switcheable graphics. I was really hoping you guys would configure this laptop with that GPU so I could know for sure; cause it sounds too good to be true. Granted I was happy to see the AMD GPU thrown in there and compared, performance/dollar is really good I just don't like the power/heat problems.

    The keyboard is a pretty massive deterrent for me on this laptop; so if it doesn't truly support Optimus then I won't buy it. But I am in the market for a new laptop and I want Sandy Bridge with DX11 DGPU in a 15.6" chassis with a 1080p screen, preffereably matte.

    I was impressed with Compal's relative battery life figures. Maybe they'll make a 15.6" laptop with a 1080p screen and a 2620QM with GTX460M and DVI/HDMI out? Please!
  • ckevin1 - Friday, March 18, 2011 - link

    Sorry, but no one has a 460m optimus solution yet. (Believe me, I've looked.) I'm surprised that anyone would tell you that -- on the Clevo/Sager forums I've been going to, the folks from xoticpc and other vendors have been pretty clear about their SB 460/485 solutions *not* supporting Optimus due to compatibility concerns.
  • Hrel - Saturday, March 19, 2011 - link

    it was on the P151HM not the P150, sorry. Not sure if that will make a difference or not but cyberpower and xotic definitely told me that chassis supported Optimus.
  • JarredWalton - Wednesday, March 23, 2011 - link

    There's a big difference: P151HM uses GT 540M graphics where the P150HM can support GTX 460M/485M and HD 5870/6970M. So, it appears that Optimus with 460M or better is still elusive....
  • jabber - Friday, March 18, 2011 - link

    Glad I got my new Intel 6200 N card for £12 on Ebay. Works perfect.

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