For the past couple of years I've been building a house in Raleigh, I moved in during the Summer of 2006 and ever since then it's been like living with contractors. I moved in before the house was finished (long story) and of course, there's always stuff to do around a house. The landscaping took forever to complete, the inside smelled like paint and stain for a good month and there are still bathrooms that don't have toilet paper holders. One bathroom on the ground level has a window looking out onto the driveway with no curtain...some of my friends aren't exactly comfortable using it.

Most of the house was built through a lot of deal hunting; we set up a construction company, negotiated direct pricing with virtually all vendors and contractors, bypassing the usual markups associated with new home construction. It was a lot of added work, but the savings and quality control definitely payed off. Unfortunately most raw materials you need for a house aren't readily available online, limiting price competition, but if you look at what online vendors have done for pricing on light fixtures and plumbing equipment you see how much room there is for improvement. The construction market reminds me a lot of the PC market before we had places like Newegg. I digress.

The lot I purchased had was perfectly suited for a basement, and a basement I wanted. Of course, the entire basement remained unfinished as there was other stuff that needed finishing around the house first. In July of this year I stumbled upon this thread over at AVS Forum, it was a theater construction thread by an AVS regular with the handle SandmanX. I was hooked. I had always thought about building a real home theater, but I just never got around to it, that thread however sparked an interest. The poster was amazingly passionate about building his theater, and he did a tremendous amount of research, completed the entire project himself and even created a screen manufacturing company in the process. His approach was very best-bang-for-your-buck, which can be rare when you're talking about anything home theater.

Today the thread is over 100 pages long, and I made it through every single page and every single post. I sent the link to a friend of mine (they call him Manny) and for a couple of weeks that's all the extra-curricular reading we did. We got some ideas and decided that it was time to start working on the basement. I contacted the acoustic consultant SandmanX used, as well as the designer he used, sent them dimensions of the room I was working with and got started at the beginning of August 2007. I should warn you now, if you're at all interested in building a home theater of any sort, that thread might as well be heroin - the poster makes everything seem so simple and doable.

I honestly had no idea what I was getting into, I'd never done anything like this before. I was also drawn to the DIY aspect of the whole project. You see, the more I researched into how much building a theater would cost the more I became frustrated with the way the high end HT (Home Theater) market works. Manufacturers do their best to protect their dealers, which ends up limiting the amount of price competition you see. Certain products can't be sold online, only through authorized dealers, which helps the masses but penalizes those of us who want to do things ourselves. The market is also small enough that simple items that shouldn't cost too much, end up with astronomical price tags. I discovered that high end projector screens can run well over $10,000, all that for fabric and a frame. Automation systems were also ridiculously priced, and here's where the HT and PC markets coincide. Most high end HT components are controllable via RS232 (yes! a use for those serial ports that aren't on motherboards anymore), yet automation systems that link together lighting, equipment control and your HTPC are priced way beyond what you would expect some simple programming and a cheap PC with a few USB-to-serial adapters would cost. I've got no issues paying for technology, I do have issues paying for something that I think I can do on my own (lofty goal?).

What will follow in the coming weeks and months is a journal of my theater construction experience. It's the first time I've ever done something like this, so I'm fully expecting it to be a learning experience. I've always tried to share my passions on AnandTech, so why not this one? I'll begin with a double post, just to get the ball rolling...

The Room

It all started with a room. When I designed my house I just wanted a gigantic room with no windows in the basement, this would be my theater. The plan called for a 20' x 20' room, which I thought would make a perfect theater - apparently I was wrong. There's this golden ratio of dimensions and apparently you don't want any of your room dimensions (length, width or height) to be integer multiples of one another (within some small percentage). Needless to say, my 20' x 20' room didn't exactly win any awards for being perfect. Luckily, as with most things in my house, the measurements were off a bit. So what was supposed to be 20' x 20' x 9.5', (L x W x H) ended up being more like 20' x 18 x 9.5', not a huge difference but I figured it could help me down the road.

I was lucky, as I was starting with a fairly clean slate and didn't have any major restrictions to worry about. Reading through some of the theater construction threads at AVS I'm always impressed by how very usable of a theater people can construct out of a dual purpose room, but I was fortunate enough to have a single room with no other purpose than to be my theater. I'm a fairly simple guy, I need a total of 3 rooms: a place to sleep, a place to work and a place to game (I'll eat in two of the three rooms) - so setting aside a room to watch movies isn't really a problem, given that I think I'd seriously hurt resale value if I built a house out of three gigantic rooms with a few garage stalls.

Standing outside The Room - Click to Enlarge

The theater room had studs up, and a HVAC duct running through it along one side but that's all. There's a double door opening on one side and I figured that you'd walk in parallel to the seating.

Standing inside the room looking at the left wall - Click to Enlarge

Walking in the room I imagined a screen on your left or right, and seating on the opposite side. That's about as far as I got in terms of my planning. Isn't there some expression about looking before you leap? Yeah, I didn't exactly do much of that.

Step in the theater, turn right 90 degrees and this is what you see - Click to Enlarge

The Spark

The SMX thread got me interested, and with me, once that spark is lit I get obsessed real quickly (as a side note, that's pretty much how AnandTech came to be, but I'll save that for another post).

I contacted two people that Mr. Sandman used in his theater build: Ryan Kramer and Bryan Pape. Ryan Kramer produced the gorgeous renders of the theater, and Bryan Pape handled all the acoustical engineering.

Both individuals responded and were eager to help at very reasonable rates. Ryan would charge a few hundred for a complete set of 3D renders and basic measurements, while Bryan Pape would charge a bit more for recommendations on how to setup the room for optimal acoustics (included in his fee was 5 hours of consulting on actually building the theater as well). The total expense between the two was less than $1K, but if you want to go even cheaper (and have some artistic talent) you can try sketching the room yourself and ask AVSers for advice on treating the room for sound.

To me, someone with no real artistic talent, the fees were beyond reasonable. To put things in perspective, I asked for the same sort of services from a local AV shop here in Raleigh that does many in-home theater installations. They wanted $10,000. I was quickly beginning to understand why so many people go the DIY route here.

My only concern was that I'd never done this before, and I wasn't going to have an actual blueprint to go off of - just some renders and dimensions. But, I figured the room was already framed, how hard could it be?

Bryan (sound guru) responded first, he had a fun list of questions for me to answer:

- Dimensions of the room to the inch (include height)
- Room construction (single or double drywall, 16 or 24" spacing on studs, carpet over
wood or concrete, etc.)
- Size and location of any doors or windows
- Number and type of seating
- Number of people to optimize for
- Room usage (HT, Multi-Channel music, 2 channel listening, combination? If a
combination, which way to 'lean' in the design)
- False wall up front to hide speakers and treatments?
- Type of screen (perf or not, size, etc.)
- Desired room finish (paint with visible panels, all cloth walls with hidden treatments,
- Any 'gotchas' I should know about? Posts? Ducting?
- Brand and model of speakers and sub(s)
- 5.1, 7.1, 2.0, 2.1?
- Current state of the room construction process.
- Basic sketch of the room showing any specific issues, size and location of any doors,

Answering this list of questions was actually a lot of fun, mostly because it required no work and my imagination got to have fun watching movies in this theoretical theater I was building. Some of the items on the list I didn't really have a solid opinion on (false wall in the front, desired room finish), but the rest I'd already thought about.

I wasn't really a fan of most home theater seats I'd seen online, they were all too bulky and looked like stuff from the 80s (I'm nostalgic about the music, not the furniture). I asked around and eventually got pointed at Salamander Designs, the Matteo seat was what I was aiming for. Using Salamander's online calculator I figured I could cram 11 seats into the theater. If I'm building a theater, I'm making sure as many people can fit in it as possible (and probably charging admission to offset the cost of my latest addiction).

I'm a rookie at this so of course I chose a ridiculously large screen size, after all, isn't that the point of the theater? I was shooting for somewhere between 10 and 12 feet wide on a 2.35:1 aspect ratio screen (I'll discuss this choice later as well). Bryan wanted to know if I wanted an acoustically transparent screen, so I could place speakers behind the screen itself. At this point I hadn't decided, so we left this one as a maybe.

The room usage question was pretty straightforward: this room was for movies first, and ridiculously large screen gaming a distant second. I'm not much of a 2-channel audio guy, although Manny insists that if I had a 4K projector in the room I'd never leave and just work/listen to music in there all day.

Ryan (look and feel guy) was a little less technical in what he needed from me, his request was simple:

"At this point, the basic room dimensions (width, height, and depth) and what type of room you had in mind would be good basic starting points. Did you see this having a more classical theater look, a more family friendly space, a contemporary feel, etc. Also did you see it having items such as risers and a stage?"

Most of my house has a modern look to it, and I wanted the theater to flow with that; clean lines aplenty. A stage? Sure, why not. Risers? Of course, stadium seating here I come.

I quickly sent along information to both of them and I got responses almost as fast.

Bryan Pape was the first to respond, he gave me a brief overview of the types of challenges we'd face during the theater construction, as well as gave me an idea of the costs I'd incur when trying to properly treat the room for acoustics. You don't want the room too echoey or too dead, so you have to strategically place material on the walls that would diffuse sound. Bryan's job would be to figure out where those panels would go based on my seating arrangement, room dimensions and speaker type/positions.

The problem with the initial stages was that I was getting great advice from Bryan, but I didn't really know it since I'd never gone through the process before. I figured we'd just throw some walls up, put some cotton on them and mount a projector and be done. It turns out it's a little more complicated than that.

Meanwhile, Ryan Kramer was hard at work on the renders. I didn't give him much information other than my style is very modern (clean lines, contrasty colors) and that's how the rest of my house is designed. The first email I got from him was a 3D render of one of the Salamander Matteo seats:

I don't think I'd ever been that excited about seeing a 3D render of a chair, but at that point, I was ecstatic. Ryan does all of his work in Cinema 4D, whose performance is modeled in the Cinebench test I run in all of our CPU reviews. Ryan told me that a full room design would take between 15 - 20 hours, spanning 2 - 4 weeks but things seemed to move much faster; a few days later he followed up with a direction he was headed in:

I liked the colors, but I wasn't so sure about the pattern on the columns (not to mention I had no idea how I'd make something like that and stick speakers behind it without upsetting Bryan the sound guy). Ryan played with things a little more and came up with this:

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Uh oh, I loved it. Now this was a problem because when I sent the design over to Bryan Pape he rejected the columns. The problem was that the columns were only open on the very front, they needed to be open on all sides because of the speakers we were using (specifically from 3' off the ground to 7' off the ground Bryan wanted the columns to be acoustically transparent). My beloved columns had to be redesigned.

Ryan went through a few more iterations, none of which I liked nearly as much as the first one:

Eventually we settled on this design:

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They were simple, which meant they'd be easy to build (a good thing since there was a chance I'd be doing the building) and they worked with the rest of the room. Finalizing a column decision also meant that Ryan could work on the front of the room.

The first renders of the front of the room came back and I got all giddy like when I'm around interesting hardware or sports cars:

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I noticed something was off though, the screen looked huge. That wall is supposed to be close to 20 feet wide and it is nearly all screen in the render. I asked Ryan what was up and he confirmed it, he accidentally gave me a 16 foot screen instead of the 12 foot wide screen we talked about. I got a revised render:

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I liked the bigger one better, but I wasn't spending $50K on a projector so lighting up 110 square feet of screen wasn't happening. Not to mention that the front row would probably go blind after the first hour of any movie. If you're wondering, the ceiling is supposed to be a fiber optic starfield ceiling. I got the idea from the Sandman theater construction thread, he built the ceiling panels himself, so I was going to try the same (more on how that panned out later).

Note that both the false wall and the screen were curved at a 30' radius. I told Ryan that I might be doing a curved screen and that's where this came from. The false wall came from Bryan Pape; you see, I didn't want any visible speakers in the room, so a false wall gives us room to hide the front speakers, subs as well as any acoustical treatments we need in the front of the room. The false wall would be 2' away from the actual wall in the center. The radius of the false wall and screen were arbitrarily picked by Ryan, I figured once I got the projector I'd figure out what radius I wanted/needed (more on why curved later).

And thus the project began, next post I'll talk about all the fun stuff we did to keep sound in the theater from getting out. There is still a lot left to figure out, and I haven't even touched on the PC aspect of this whole thing. You better believe that I'm going to build one beefy HTPC for this theater...



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  • Anh Huynh - Saturday, January 05, 2008 - link

    Are you going to go with Swan Speakers for the audio setup? :) I take it John will be your audio consultant?

    I'm curious to what you'll be running for a receiver/amps, and Blu-ray or HD DVD, or both :D
  • madgonad - Friday, January 04, 2008 - link

    Do you have an option, using your visually appealing column design, to pre-build for likely technology improvements? Specifically the likely bump to 10.2 which adds high and wide surrounds, puts subs on the left and right, and leaves a single rear center channel. The concealed speaker areas are a great idea, and will be future proof if the likely expansion locations are pre-constructed and wired with speaker, line, and power cabling. You may be able to jump from 7.2 to 10.2 painlessly by adding the speakers and an updated receiver/amplifier. Reply
  • Anand Lal Shimpi - Friday, January 04, 2008 - link

    I can always stick stuff in the front two columns, but anything more elaborate and I'd be looking at a rebuild. It gets easier after the first time right? ;)
  • Allen Iverson - Friday, January 04, 2008 - link

    Now thats a home theatre I'd be proud of. I particularly like the lighting and star ceiling. One thing I think will be great in your HT is a snack bar/fridge bar in built into the walls so it doesn't distract from the ambience. The last thing you want is white snack fridge and visible power cables.

    You must have some courage to go the DIY route! It seems mighty complicated. Whats your timeline for the project going to be?
  • Anand Lal Shimpi - Friday, January 04, 2008 - link

    The project is already well beyond what you see in this first post :) I've been working on it since August and I expect that the theater will be watchable by February. I don't expect full automation to be done for months after that though, I haven't had time to put much thought into how I'm going to architect all that yet.

    The original idea was to have something web-based and with an iPhone-optimized version also available. The idea is that most home theaters use these expensive touch screens, so why not have a "remote" that uses the best touch screen on the market today? We'll see, that may be too lofty of a goal :)

    Take care,
  • EODetroit - Monday, January 07, 2008 - link

    Can I come over to watch the NCAA Tournament? My Louisville friend's basement not seeming quite as nice any more!
  • Havor - Saturday, January 05, 2008 - link

    Hey Anand looks like your well on your way till now :D

    A tip for your Media Center software

    I have bin busy whit HTPC’s sins the first XBMC came out for the Xbox
    (even before that I tried but HTPC soft/hardware then was mostly crap)

    I have run a lot of Media Center (MC) I tried almost all MCs from Myth to MediOS and some others but noting was beating XBMC

    Now a days I run the free OS [url="> ]MediaPortal[/url] (MP) whit the TV-server they developed.

    MP was a spin-off from one of the original dev. of XBMC because he felt the XBMC was holding him back whit the options he wanted from a MC and found MS-MCE way to limited so he ported the XBMC to use as a HTPC

    Its based on .NET and runs on any machine that can run that

    Almost everything you wane do whit a MC you can do whit it, and then some more.
    There are loads of plugins you can use like, automation, Audio/(web)Radio, EPG/TV, My Daily Comics (what I really love), Torrent client., ect. ect.,

    And there are some really nice skins out there for MP
    My favorit skins [url=">]Xface[/url] 9/16 and [url=,...">,...]PM III[/url] 3/4 skin
    I like dark skins but there are lots more, and also brighter skins and even some weird skins.

    MP works almost strait “out of the box” you have to follow a first setup install and install your codec’s and then it works like all other MC’s.
    But if you put some extra time in, there are lots of options ware you can fine tune it like a race car it’s a bit of work but then, but when your done it will also handle like one and you have full control.

    PM supports a lot of TV cards but at least all hardware that’s made for MS-MCE works under MP

    I run now 4 HTPC in my house and they are all connected to my TV-server.

    One whit top hardware for HD media, that’s connected to a 1080p TV and projector, and a Harmon Kardon 7.1 DD receiver.

    And the tree other ones that are based on the [url=">]VIA EPIA EX-series Mini-ITX [/url]
    Two are connected to 720p TV’s in bedroom’s,
    And one fitted whit a 15” LCD touch’s screens build in a kitchen wall to use as MC but also to look up recipe’s and so on. (plugin)

    I have installed my TV-card’s (3x sat and 1x dual tuner digital cable TV-card) in the TV-server that is used also as a A/V file-serer

    I have bin looking at the SandmanX tread at AVforum one thing I don’t understand is the fascination whit big touch screens

    I have a Logitech [url=">]Harmony 1000/url], but I still uses my old harmony 880 more because it got real buttons and I can still do anything I want/need whit it.
    And in the bedroom I use the MS-MCE remote and I almost prefer that one over the Logitech one’s its simple and dose what it needs to do, its all you really need.
    (but if I need to pick one now, I would properly get a harmony 890)

    I don’t know if MP fits your bill, but I will give it a good chance ;)

    But as your are a news site why not combine pleasure whit work and test the different MCs and tell what you think about them and of course what you going to use :-)
  • JarredWalton - Friday, January 04, 2008 - link

    ...AnandTech staffers are eager for their boss to finish building and throw a nice party and invite us over. I figure one of these days I should actually go out an visit my boss' house, right? (Plane tickets optional.) :) Reply
  • Greenhell6 - Saturday, January 05, 2008 - link

    Hey i don't work with you guys!! But i live Raleigh and would love to check it out!! Hey Anand i will hook you up with paper holders(work in building Biz) im sure this sounds creepY Reply
  • Anand Lal Shimpi - Friday, January 04, 2008 - link

    You're always welcome Jarred. Team building at my place :)

    Do you think we can get all of the ATers to agree on movie selection?

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