A month ago AMD introduced the world’s first quad-core processor to debut at $99. Last week, AMD announced its third quarter earnings for 2009. While the company as a whole lost money, the Product Company (CPU and GPU design) turned a small profit. I don’t want to say that the worst is behind AMD, but things are definitely looking up.

Income Q3 2009 Q2 2009 Q1 2009
AMD -$128 Million -$330 Million -$416 Million
AMD Product Company +$2 Million -$244 Million -$308 Million

 

And for the consumer, AMD is providing a ton of value these days. You're getting more transistors per dollar than Intel will give you, and it's not just bloat, these things are fast:

Processor Cores Manufacturing Process L1 Cache L2 Cache L3 Cache Die Size Transistor Count
AMD Phenom II X4 4 45nm 128KB per core 512KB per core 6MB 258 mm2 758M
AMD Athlon II X4/X3 4 45nm 128KB per core 512KB per core 0MB 169 mm2 300M
AMD Athlon II X2 2 45nm 128KB per core 1MB per core 0MB 117 mm2 234M
Intel Core 2 Quad Q8xxx 4 45nm 64KB per core 4MB 0MB 164 mm2 456M
Intel Pentium E6xxx 2 45nm 64KB per core 2MB 0MB 82 mm2 228M

 

The value train continues with todays introduction of the first triple core Athlon II processors: the Athlon II X3 435 and 425. Clocked at 2.9GHz and 2.7GHz respectively, these processors are simply Athlon II X4s with one core disabled.

 

They’re also quite affordable. The 435 will set you back $87 while the 425 costs $76. This puts them on par with Intel’s Pentium E6000 series dual core processors, but cheaper than the Core 2 Duo E7500. This has been AMD’s high end dual core strategy for the Phenom’s life: sell three cores for the price of two. And in the past, it has worked.

Processor Clock Speed L2 Cache L3 Cache TDP Price
AMD Phenom II X4 965 BE 3.4GHz 2MB 6MB 140W $245
AMD Phenom II X4 955 BE 3.2GHz 2MB 6MB 125W $245
AMD Phenom II X4 945 3.0GHz 2MB 6MB 125W $225
AMD Phenom II X3 720 BE 2.8GHz 1.5MB 6MB 95W $145
AMD Phenom II X2 550 BE 3.1GHz 1MB 6MB 80W $105
AMD Athlon II X4 630 2.8GHz 2MB 0MB 95W $122
AMD Athlon II X4 620 2.6GHz 2MB 0MB 95W $99
AMD Athlon II X3 435 2.9GHz 1.5MB 0MB 95W $87
AMD Athlon II X3 425 2.7GHz 1.5MB 0MB 95W $76
AMD Athlon II X2 250 3.0GHz 2MB 0MB 65W $87
AMD Athlon II X2 245 2.9GHz 2MB 0MB 65W $66
AMD Athlon II X2 240 2.8GHz 2MB 0MB 65W $60

 

The X3s AMD is announcing today are clocked high enough that you still have good performance in single threaded applications, and in those that can take advantage of three cores you’re almost guaranteed to have better performance than the Intel alternative.

The real question you have to ask is whether it makes more sense to spend a little more than get a quad-core processor or not.

The Athlon II X3s are 45nm 95W TDP parts and work in both Socket-AM2+ and Socket-AM3 motherboards. As I mentioned before, these are architecturally identical to the X4s just with one core disabled. That means you get a 512KB L2 per core but no L3 cache.

I’ll spoil the surprise for you here: they’re faster than the equivalently priced Intel CPUs in most cases, but that’s not too surprising.

The Athlon II X3 435 is a bit more overclockable than the X4 620. Without any additional voltage we got 3.25GHz on our 620 sample, but our 435 yielded 3.33GHz:

With an extra ~15% voltage we could get 3.63GHz:

AMD is also introducing a slew of energy efficient Athlon IIs as well. They’re all in the table below:

Processor Clock Speed L2 Cache TDP Price Premium
AMD Athlon II X4 605e 2.3GHz 2MB 45W $143 +$44
AMD Athlon II X4 600e 2.2GHz 2MB 45W $133 +$34
AMD Athlon II X3 405e 2.3GHz 1.5MB 45W $102 +$26
AMD Athlon II X3 400e 2.2GHz 1.5MB 45W $97 +$21
AMD Athlon II X2 240e 2.8GHz 2MB 45W $77 +$17
AMD Athlon II X2 235e 2.7GHz 2MB 45W $69 +$9

 

These energy efficient processors are binned for lower voltages and thus have a 45W TDP. Unfortunately you do sacrifice clock speed in some cases as a result. There's also a hefty price premium, at the high end you lose clock speed and pay 44% more for a 45W TDP.

 

The Test

Motherboard: Intel DX58SO (Intel X58)
Intel DX48BT2 (Intel X48)
Gigabyte GA-MA790FX-UD5P (AMD 790FX)
Chipset: Intel X48
Intel X58
AMD 790FX
Chipset Drivers: Intel 9.1.1.1015 (Intel)
AMD Catalyst 8.12
Hard Disk: Intel X25-M SSD (80GB)
Memory: Qimonda DDR3-1066 4 x 1GB (7-7-7-20)
Corsair DDR3-1333 4 x 1GB (7-7-7-20)
Patriot Viper DDR3-1333 2 x 2GB (7-7-7-20)
Video Card: eVGA GeForce GTX 280
Video Drivers: NVIDIA ForceWare 180.43 (Vista64)
NVIDIA ForceWare 178.24 (Vista32)
Desktop Resolution: 1920 x 1200
OS: Windows Vista Ultimate 32-bit (for SYSMark)
Windows Vista Ultimate 64-bit
SYSMark 2007 Performance
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  • Eeqmcsq - Tuesday, October 20, 2009 - link

    Btw, Anand. I was looking for these Athlon IIs at Newegg, and I see an Athlon X2 5000+, 45nm, AM2+, 2.2GHz. Could you ask AMD where this came from. which die this is made from, why it's AM2+ only, etc?
  • fsdetained - Wednesday, October 21, 2009 - link

    This is the old Athlons, the k8 generation I believe. The athlon II's and Phenom II's are k10 generation, as well as Phenom I's I think.
    It's amd2+ because am3 wasnt out at the time it was made.
  • Eeqmcsq - Wednesday, October 21, 2009 - link

    no, it says 45m, even in AMD's product page. It was quietly launched, but I can't find any reports about it.
  • Eeqmcsq - Wednesday, October 21, 2009 - link

    sorry about the double post. The web server claimed there was an error on the 1st post, but apparently it was properly posted.
  • Eeqmcsq - Wednesday, October 21, 2009 - link

    no, it says 45m, even in AMD's product page. It was quietly launched, but I can't find any reports about it.
  • maddoctor - Tuesday, October 20, 2009 - link

    Why you are care about this. All AMD products are crap. Period.
  • blackbyron - Tuesday, October 20, 2009 - link

    maddoctor, you are a tool and a true idiot. AMD is not crap. Sure I use intel because its faster, but AMD needs to change. I believe you are 100% intel fanboy. Back in 2005, do you know AMD dominated the market? If you say intel is cheaper and better than AMD and you hope that it'll go out of business, then intel will might increase the prices that start at $600.

    Sounds bad huh, doesn't it make you worry?

    Intel Fanboy = FAIL.
  • maddoctor - Tuesday, October 20, 2009 - link

    Hey, you are name calling, so just buy AMD's products now if AMD's products are not crap. Even you have admit that Intel products are faster than AMD. You see that, AMD is crap that could not design processor properly like Intel. This is an evidence that Intel's engineers are smarter than AMD.
  • blackbyron - Tuesday, October 20, 2009 - link

    They are not crap, and I am not saying I like AMDs. The reason why AMD can't catch up Intel is they gave out rebates to customers and persuaded them to buy Intel cpus. Then EU filed a lawsuit against Intel for hurting consumers and were fined. Have YOU also heard about Intel that they paid dell 1 billion dollars not to use AMDs? You can't say AMD is crap. Do you know AMD makes really good graphics card?
  • maddoctor - Tuesday, October 20, 2009 - link

    What EC are wrong in their investigations. Intel is respect with law and did not do anything wrong. Just ask Anand. He will argue with me Intel is not a cheater and did not cheat with benchmark like AMD. AMD products are crap, if you buy it, you will regret wil its slower performance than Intel product.

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