AMD's Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition

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• Drazick - Thursday, August 13, 2009 - link

  It seems Intel advantage is more about optimization than much better processor, is this assumption true?
  
  Why isn't AMD put efforts into that?
  
  Thanks. Reply

• Drazick - Thursday, August 13, 2009 - link

  It should be easy to create some test scenarios and measure time.
  
  Many High End users use those kind of software. Reply

• GourdFreeMan - Thursday, August 13, 2009 - link

  The problem with benchmarking such packages is that depending on their target application they will not stress systems in a uniform way. Large matrix computation will likely be bound by memory bandwidth, while numeric computation at machine precision will hinge on FPU/SSE performance, and symbolic calculations will largely be bound by integer and branching performance. There isn't one uniform application that is representative of the needs of all scientists and engineers. Reply

• XtAzY - Thursday, August 13, 2009 - link

  I got my i7 920 for $200 at MicroCenter, much cheaper than $280 online deals! This AMD definately does not worth $245!! Reply

• Griswold - Thursday, August 13, 2009 - link

  And how much did you pay for the mobo and triple channel kit, dumbass? Reply

• Exar3342 - Thursday, August 13, 2009 - link

  LOL, your the dumbass. :)
  
  6GB triple Channel - (Newegg) $85.00
  8GB dual channel (newegg) $95.00
  
  X58 MB - $165-175
  AM3 MB $85-120
  
  So you are talking a difference or $40-60, which if you can get the i7 at Microcenter (I was there last week and they had a ton) erases any price differences. Reply

• Griswold - Saturday, August 15, 2009 - link

  Oh, lets look at the other article anand just put up, dumbass. Your shit doesnt quite add up... Reply

• rhog - Thursday, August 13, 2009 - link

  Since when can you get a "good" x58 for lest than 200?
  
  I assume the 200 Bucks is a Mail in rebate price as well. I own 2 i7 920 great processor but hardly any faster at 3.6ghz than a 3.8ghz AMD 955 (at most 20%) which is in line with the "real" 100-125 Buck difference in cost. You can get a really nice Video card upgrade for that money. Don't forget the i7 920 never runs at 2.6ghz but always overclocks itself making it hard to do a good clock for clock comparison. The AMD 965 is better than Core2 and I doubt that the Core i5 will be faster than a Core i7 so they should compete well. Oh, and the Core i5 will overclock itself as well I here as much a 3 mults Reply

• Roland00 - Thursday, August 13, 2009 - link

  The 200 dollar price isn't a mail in rebate, Micro Center a small computer store chain with about 30 stores market itself as a computer builder destination. They lose about 80 dollars on the processor to get you into the store and hoping to sell you enough other stuff (or assembly or warranties) to make up for their loss leader. Reply

• steelicon - Thursday, August 13, 2009 - link

  ROTFLMAOBBQ! Agreed! They get you in more ways than one, either it's the Processor itself, the Chipset, the DDR3 or all of them combined. Good thing we have another choice of platform! Reply