We can probably chalk that up to the GTX+'s new drivers. We retested the old 9800 GTX with the new drivers in Assassin's Creed, Bioshock and The Witcher. NVIDIA told us that the other games we tested didn't change in performance but we didn't verify that. After the Radeon HD 4870 review is done we should be able to go back and retest the rest of the 9800 GTX numbers to help clear up any issues like this.
It's interesting to see how well the 4850 does in the performance per watt area. Even in CF it idles at less then the 9800GTX+, I guess that gap will lessen as Nvidia's 55nm process improves. Now if they would start putting some better coolers on the 4850...
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Anand Lal Shimpi - Tuesday, June 24, 2008 - link
We can probably chalk that up to the GTX+'s new drivers. We retested the old 9800 GTX with the new drivers in Assassin's Creed, Bioshock and The Witcher. NVIDIA told us that the other games we tested didn't change in performance but we didn't verify that. After the Radeon HD 4870 review is done we should be able to go back and retest the rest of the 9800 GTX numbers to help clear up any issues like this.Take care,
Anand
Lonyo - Tuesday, June 24, 2008 - link
Ah, good to know that there is a reason!My fault for skipping over the test bed and ignoring the driver listing I expect!
silversound - Tuesday, June 24, 2008 - link
The 4870 outperforms the GTX 260 with $100 cheaper...And its only 10-15% slower than GTX 280 with half the price!
And 4870 has GDDR5 memory!
silversound - Tuesday, June 24, 2008 - link
http://en.expreview.com/2008/06/24/first-review-hd...">http://en.expreview.com/2008/06/24/first-review-hd...Lifted - Tuesday, June 24, 2008 - link
Damn, that site is getting hammered.Warder45 - Tuesday, June 24, 2008 - link
It's interesting to see how well the 4850 does in the performance per watt area. Even in CF it idles at less then the 9800GTX+, I guess that gap will lessen as Nvidia's 55nm process improves. Now if they would start putting some better coolers on the 4850...Clauzii - Tuesday, June 24, 2008 - link
They did:http://www.legionhardware.com/document.php?id=722">http://www.legionhardware.com/document.php?id=722
They are able to get it from 88 down to 46 @LOAD and 60 down to 37 @IDLE :))
Aquila76 - Tuesday, June 24, 2008 - link
Unless I'm overlooking something, those numbers are for an nVidia 8800GT, not the ATI 4850.Clauzii - Wednesday, June 25, 2008 - link
Ouch... You are right! But I'll asume it will do something alike on ATI's, which have also be found to have 'bad' coolers.OK, a 4870 then:
http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canu...">http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/ha...870-512m...
IvanAndreevich - Tuesday, June 24, 2008 - link
I guess you don't have a clue that both ATI and nVidia chips are manufactured in the same place. Or that nVidia doesn't own a foundry.