2.0GHz Today, 2.5GHz Tomorrow

At the last minute, AMD informed us that we'd be receiving three sets of Barcelona processors: a pair of 1.9GHz chips, 2.0GHz chips and 2.5GHz chips. The latter won't be shipping until Q4 of this year, but AMD wanted to show that Barcelona is yielding at higher clock speeds and that there is a roadmap going forward.


Barcelona - 1.9GHz


Barcelona - 2.0GHz

To be honest, we expected 2.5GHz by the end of year from AMD, and slightly higher on the desktop but it's good to actually have silicon in hand instead of empty promises or hunches.


AMD taking notes from Intel, hand written clock speeds are in.

With 2.5GHz in hand today, we'd expect Phenom to be at or below 2.6GHz by the end of the year, with 3.0GHz coming sometime in 2008.


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  • lopri - Monday, September 10, 2007 - link

    Was thinking the exact same thing. Because the ~20% advantage in games just didn't make sense considering that the gaming benchmark is probably the most single-threaded in nature. If taken as its face value, the performance gain would be huge (which only would grow as the number of core increases).
  • PlasmaBomb - Monday, September 10, 2007 - link

    CPU-z says the voltage required to achieve 2.5GHz on a Barcelona was 1.52V, what was it set to in the BIOS?
  • Spuke - Monday, September 10, 2007 - link

    ...it looks like AMD will be a great alternative to Intel. The present K8 is already competitive performance-wise with Conroe and the Barcelona core looks to be MUCH quicker than K8. If Penryn is only 5% faster than Conroe, then I foresee Phenom being equal to Penryn. Well, that is unless you believe single digit gains to be LARGE advantages.
  • Hulk - Monday, September 10, 2007 - link

    "The present K8 is already competitive performance-wise with Conroe..."

    Huh? Every review I've ever read comparing K8 with Conroe shows Conroe being significantly faster in 9 out of 10 tests at the same clockspeed.

  • Sunbird - Monday, September 10, 2007 - link

    And the reviews with P4s and A64 were showing the A64 winning 9 out of 10 at same clockspeeds, the megahertz myth is busted. The only thing that really matters is price to performance and to some overclocking and maybe platform cost and heat...
  • strikeback03 - Monday, September 10, 2007 - link

    Except the post being replied to did not mention price, only performance. In the desktop market Intel currently beats AMD clock for clock and their top parts are clearly faster than AMD top parts. Depending on how much you get your processor for, AMD can be competitive on price per dollar, but on pure performance not so much right now.
  • Spuke - Monday, September 10, 2007 - link

    I said competitive with Intel not "hair on fire" faster than Intel. Two different things. At the framerates these CPU's are getting nowadays, the performance differences are irrelevant at least in gaming and near irrelevant in other benchmarks. Unless you're making money of these systems where every second counts, the differences are truly insignificant. And I won't get into the J6P market.
  • strikeback03 - Tuesday, September 11, 2007 - link

    Well, I don't game, so framerates in that sense are rather meaningless to me. On the other hand if I have a couple hundred photos to convert from RAW to TIFF, then open in CS2 and apply some other corrections, the time savings of running on a 3GHz quad-core C2D over a 3GHz AMD solution (1 or two processor) can be significant. I'd imagine those who do video rendering feel the same way.
  • Regs - Monday, September 10, 2007 - link

    It's really too early to tell. It's what we all expected. They should of been released at 2.6 and scaled up to 3.0+ Ghz. Not 1.8 to 2.5 Ghz.
  • hirschma - Monday, September 10, 2007 - link

    I'd love to know what happens when a Barcelona is inserted into an AMD 4x4 platform. Does it work?

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