The AMD Memory Roadmap: DDR3, FBD and G3MX Examined

With today's announcement we can finally talk about AMD's memory roadmap; the two questions we often hear are: when is AMD planning on moving to DDR3 and what about Fully Buffered DIMM? Both are answered with today's disclosure.

AMD will begin the DDR3 transition on the desktop in the second half of 2008 with its Shanghai processor, but AMD won't fully move to DDR3 until 2009 with Bulldozer. The DDR3 transition beginning with Shanghai and completing with Bulldozer is very similar to the cautious approach AMD took to DDR2 adoption. By the time 2009 rolls around, DDR3 should be very cost competitive with DDR2 and the transition should be seamless.

Despite rumors to the contrary, Bulldozer won't support Intel's Fully Buffered DIMM standard, and instead will use what AMD is calling the "G3 Memory Extender" (G3MX).

FBD addresses the problem of not being able to maintain memory frequency while increasing the number of memory sockets on a motherboard, something that impacts the high end server market. The FBD solution is to serialize the memory bus by placing a buffer chip on each memory module that communicates with the memory controller and memory devices. The memory controller only needs to worry about driving data to these buffers, and the buffers deal with getting data in/out of the memory devices.

While FBD supports up to 8 DIMMs per memory channel, there are three major drawbacks: 1) higher cost per module, 2) higher latencies due to serialization and 3) higher power consumption. AMD has said that it evaluates new memory technologies at each generation, and although it won't rule out FBD for future products, it simply doesn't make sense today.

G3MX addresses the same issue of maintaining memory performance while driving up the number of slots per channel in a more economical manner. The technology simply calls for custom, ASIC-class, buffer logic to be placed on the motherboard itself between the memory controller (in this case the CPU) and the memory slots. There is no conversion of memory interface and thus performance/power shouldn't be impacted nearly as much as FBD, and the big upside is that you can use standard DDR3 memory in the sockets since G3MX is implemented at a motherboard level.

The downside is that with G3MX you are still dealing with a parallel memory interface, which becomes difficult to implement at higher speeds and loads. AMD insists that it can work around any issues related to motherboard design and trace routing, and that G3MX is presently a better solution than FBD for its needs.

The first G3MX implementation will arrive with Bulldozer in 2009; like FBD, it will be limited to high end server/workstation platforms.

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  • kilkennycat - Friday, July 27, 2007 - link

    Highly likely that nVidia will solve this problem at both high and low end with their next family of GPUs. Stay tuned for the end of 2007. The first part out of the chute is also likely not to be the highest end but that which replaces the 8800GTS at a price close to $200 with full HD hardware decode... nVidia is very well aware of the cost-performance hole left by both AMD/ATI and themselves in their current GPU line.
  • strikeback03 - Friday, July 27, 2007 - link

    with that Phenom demo box, I think they have finally found use for a 1000W+ power supply
  • Spoelie - Friday, July 27, 2007 - link

    Given the size of the heatsink on the cpu, I'd venture power consumption is inline with other engineering samples, 120w or less max TDP
  • Spoelie - Friday, July 27, 2007 - link

    Oh my bad, you're right when taking the three 2900XTs in consideration.

    Where's my edit button :(
  • Spoelie - Friday, July 27, 2007 - link

    At least 2 times in the article, the text builds up anticipation for a graph, but it never comes, the most telling example is on page 6, but one or two pages before it it happened also. Both graphs are supposed to be from Intel.
  • Justin Case - Monday, August 13, 2007 - link

    Exactly. They say "Two years ago Intel used the following chart to illustrate the need for multi-core CPUs", and then the image is an AMD slide, not an Intel graph.
  • Omega215D - Thursday, July 26, 2007 - link

    If they plan to integrate an on die PCIe controller on the CPU how would this affect overclocking?
  • Regs - Friday, July 27, 2007 - link

    I'd imagine just like how it was when AMD intergrated the memory controller, mobo makers will just have to add more bios options.
  • yacoub - Thursday, July 26, 2007 - link

    While paging through the article, the thing that stood out most to me was the AMD graphic on page 5 supposedly demonstrating how much more performance Bulldozer is going to offer without a single number on the graph. I guess they want us to measure its performance increases in pixels. hehe :)
  • LTG - Thursday, July 26, 2007 - link

    Anand you're really good at distilling out the bottom line from massive amounts of marketing talk and slide ware.

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