Graphics Performance

Moving on to gaming performance, AMD has upgraded their integrated graphics within Strix Point to the RDNA 3.5 architecture. RDNA 3.5 improves things over RDNA 3 within Phoenix and Hawk Point in multiple areas. One thing RDNA 3.5 does is greatly increase the GPU's capacity to execute complicated graphics operations more effectively by optimizing key things such as texture sampling and interpolation. Upgrading the memory management in RDNA 3.5 also allows for better overall power optimization and data handling to address major GPU performance issues.


Screenshot of the AMD Ryzen AI 9 HX 370 with Radeon 890M in GPU-Z

All of the improvements and upgrades over RDNA 3 should theoretically translate into better real-world gaming performance. Generally, any form of mobile SoC doesn't quite bring the power or graphics compute to the same level as discrete graphics, which have more die area to play with, a higher transistor budget at the manufacturing level, and more power.

As the new AMD Radeon 890M graphics is the direct successor to the Radeon 780M, it does have an obvious competitor in the previous Phoenix and Hawk Point mobile SoCs. Until Intel launches its upcoming Lunar Lake mobile SoC, the other competitor is Intel's current Meteor Lake-based Arc Xe LPG integrated graphics. Another contender is AMD's own RDNA 3.5 sibling to the Radeon 890M in the Ryzen AI 9 HX pairing, which is the Radeon 880M and is found in the Ryzen AI 9 365. The main difference between the Radeon 890M and the 880M is in the number of graphic cores or compute units (CUs). The Radeon 890M features 16 x CUs, while the Radeon 880M comes with 12 x CUs.

As integrated graphics get their memory from the primary pool of DRAM installed, slower system memory can be hindered by bandwidth. AMD's Ryzen AI 300 series allows for both DDR5-5600 and LPDDR5x-7500, which is what the ASUS Zenbook S 16 we're testing uses.

For this review, we will focus on gaming performance at 1080p, which is the most commonly used gaming resolution according to the latest Steam survey. Given that these are mobile chips, we've opted for middle-of-the-road settings using the Medium preset. Despite the advancements in integrated graphics, they still lack the horsepower of discrete graphics.

Gaming Performance @ 1080p Medium Settings

IGP Company of Heroes - 1080p Medium - Average FPS

IGP Company of Heroes - 1080p Medium - 95th Percentile

IGP Cyberpunk 2077 - 1080p Medium - Average FPS

IGP Cyberpunk 2077 - 1080p Medium - 95th Percentile

IGP F1 2023 1080p Medium, Bahrain - Average FPS

IGP F1 2023 1080p Medium, Bahrain - 95th Percentile

IGP Returnal, 1080p Medium - Average FPS

IGP Returnal, 1080p Medium - 95th Percentile

IGP Total War Warhammer 3, 1080p Medium - Average FPS

IGP Total War Warhammer 3, 1080p Medium - 95th Percentile

Looking at the performance of the Radeon 890M within the Ryzen AI 9 HX 370, we can see that the combination of Zen 5/Zen 5c cores and the latest RDNA 3.5 graphics performs consistently well at 1080p. Given the Ryzen AI 9 HX 370 has a higher core count with 12C/24T (4 x Z5 + 8 x Z5c) compared to the Ryzen 9 7940HS (8C/16T), the latest Soc also has a higher number of graphics compute units (16 CUs vs. 12 CUs). On top of that, you also have to factor in the jump in CPU architecture to Zen 5 over Zen 4; the latest SoC certainly does have an advantage.

In Company of Heroes 3 at medium settings, this game can simultaneously be very taxing on the CPU cores and graphics. The Ryzen AI 9 HX 370 with the Radeon 890M graphics is around 23% faster than the Ryzen 9 7940HS/Radeon 780M, although to make things a level playing field, we are testing the 7940HS at 35 W. 

We also see good gains over the Ryzen 9 7940HS and Intel's Core Ultra 7 155H, which is a 6P+8E/22T chip with their Arc Xe integrated graphics that has 8 x CUs in Cyberpunk 2022 and F1 2023, but we are also seeing an uptick of 38% compared to the Core Ultra 7 155H in Returnal; for contrast, it beats the Ryzen 7940HS by around 57%.

Overall, AMD's latest RDNA 3.5 graphics architecture and the Zen 5 pairing certainly improve integrated graphics performance. This is a good thing, although integrated graphics are still not quite there when it comes to achieving a consistent 1080p/60fps in demanding titles. Games such as MOBAs, including League of Legends and DOTA 2, and other less demanding games will certainly play well on this iGPU.

AI Performance Conclusion
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  • kkilobyte - Sunday, July 28, 2024 - link

    I don't find it disappointing at all. It manages to perform as well or better (sometimes by a significant amount), while running on a 28W instead of 35W budget. I think it is a very important point when it comes to laptop CPUs.

    It's pretty unfortunate that AT didn't also test the laptop with the 17W TDP. It would have been very interesting to see how big (or not) the impact on performances was. If the loss is limited, it may be an nice tradeoff for that kind of machine.
  • brucethemoose - Sunday, July 28, 2024 - link

    > There isn't a defined benchmark that tests AI performance from a level playing field

    llama.cpp has a vulkan backend, and a couple of built in benchmarks. Its not the *fastest* backend (people on AMD/Intel just use rocm or sycl), but it's at least fair.

    There are also vulkan ports of other models like esrgan.
  • Gavin Bonshor - Sunday, July 28, 2024 - link

    Hey Bruce, thanks for the heads up on that. I'll check it out
  • MakaanPL - Sunday, July 28, 2024 - link

    Thank you for the review, nice work as always. Strix Point beating last-gen HS chip despite low cooling performance chassis is quite promising. It doesn't address the idle power, though, and in the mobile space it's very important as well.

    By the way, do you plan to cover production laptops with Qualcomm X Elite/Plus? Yoga seems to be really interesting and only one with reasonable pricing of 32GB RAM option, but very few reviews were published so far.
  • Ryan Smith - Sunday, July 28, 2024 - link

    "By the way, do you plan to cover production laptops with Qualcomm X Elite/Plus?"

    Yes. It's taken entirely too long to get a sample in, but we should finally have one at the start of August.
  • eastcoast_pete - Monday, July 29, 2024 - link

    I fully place the blame for that delay on Qualcomm and their launch partners. They have been quite "picky" about who gets what subnotebook or 2-in-1 and when. Which I believe was a mistake; they now face competition from AMD (like this one here) and soon also from Lunar Lake. At least AMD has apparently learned from their bad example, and sent out review units to many sites quickly.
  • Khanan - Sunday, July 28, 2024 - link

    Good article.
  • Terry_Craig - Sunday, July 28, 2024 - link

    What is most impressive is that even in this ultra-thin model the framerate is super stable.
  • abufrejoval - Sunday, July 28, 2024 - link

    A great piece of engineering on both sides for sure, very much where I was hoping AMD would land in terms of performance.

    And I was very tempted until I saw the price: ASUS asks for more than €2000 on their direct sales shop and that is just way too much no matter what. Doing as good as the fruity cult doesn't mean you should charge their prices, especially the €400 markup for 8GB of RAM and 1TB of SSD.

    I guess the ASUS exclusivity wasn't cheap, but I'll wait until prices have gone to saner levels, which I'm very sure they will.

    And then I really wanted 64GB of RAM, which I believe is actually impossible with LPDDR5?
  • eastcoast_pete - Monday, July 29, 2024 - link

    You might have to wait for the first LPCAMM2 notebooks for that. Micron and I believe Samsung are shipping memory modules that allow for 64 GB fast LP RAM.
    And yes, I agree on the pricing; it's, let's say, ambitious. And not helping with fast uptake. While Meteor Lake laptops are not as fast (but not that much slower either), they can be had, nicely equipped, for a lot less.
    It'll be interesting to see how Intel and launch partners will price Lunar Lake, and of course how Lunar Lake will perform.

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