Gaming Performance: DDR5 vs DDR4

All of our game testing results, including other resolutions, can be found in our benchmark database: All gaming tests were with an RTX 2080 Ti.

1080p Max

(b-7) Civilization VI - 1080p Max - Average FPS(b-8) Civilization VI - 1080p Max - 95th Percentile

(d-4) Final Fantasy 14 - 1080p Max - Average FPS

(f-5) World of Tanks - 1080p Max - Average FPS(f-6) World of Tanks - 1080p Max - 95th Percentile

(g-7) Borderlands 3 - 1080p Max - Average FPS(g-8) Borderlands 3 - 1080p Max - 95th Percentile

(i-7) Far Cry 5 - 1080p Ultra - Average FPS(i-8) Far Cry 5 - 1080p Ultra - 95th Percentile

(j-7) Gears Tactics - 1080p Ultra - Average FPS(j-8) Gears Tactics - 1080p Ultra - 95th Percentile

(k-7) Grand Theft Auto V - 1080p Max - Average FPS(k-8) Grand Theft Auto V - 1080p Max - 95th Percentile

(l-7) Red Dead 2 - 1080p Max - Average FPS(l-8) Red Dead 2 - 1080p Max - 95th Percentile

(m-7) Strange Brigade DX12 - 1080p Ultra - Average FPS(m-8) Strange Brigade DX12 - 1080p Ultra - 95th Percentile

(n-7) Strange Brigade Vulkan - 1080p Ultra - Average FPS(n-8) Strange Brigade Vulkan - 1080p Ultra - 95th Percentile


4K Low

(b-5) Civilization VI - 4K Min - Average FPS(b-6) Civilization VI - 4K Min - 95th Percentile(d-3) Final Fantasy 14 - 4K Min - Average FPS(e-5) Final Fantasy 15 - 4K Standard - Average FPS(e-6) Final Fantasy 15 - 4K Standard - 95th Percentile(g-5) Borderlands 3 - 4K VLow - Average FPS(g-6) Borderlands 3 - 4K VLow - 95th Percentile(i-5) Far Cry 5 - 4K Low - Average FPS(i-6) Far Cry 5 - 4K Low - 95th Percentile(j-5) Gears Tactics - 4K Low - Average FPS(j-6) Gears Tactics - 4K Low - 95th Percentile(k-5) Grand Theft Auto V - 4K Low - Average FPS(k-6) Grand Theft Auto V - 4K Low - 95th Percentile(l-5) Red Dead 2 - 4K Min - Average FPS(l-6) Red Dead 2 - 4K Min - 95th Percentile(m-5) Strange Brigade DX12 - 4K Low - Average FPS(m-6) Strange Brigade DX12 - 4K Low - 95th Percentile(n-5) Strange Brigade Vulkan - 4K Low - Average FPS(n-6) Strange Brigade Vulkan - 4K Low - 95th Percentile


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  • ajollylife - Sunday, November 7, 2021 - link

    I agree. I've got a 3995wx everything on qvl, even with an optane drive. Got too annoyed with the bugs and found a 5950x worked better for a high performance desktop. Going to swap to a 12900k once i can find parts.
  • TheJian - Sunday, November 7, 2021 - link

    If you know how to use mem timings, you idiots that depend on SPD's wouldn't have these problems (that covers about 90% of this crap, and knowing other bios settings solves almost anything else besides REAL failures). I've been building systems for decades (and owned a PC biz for 8yrs myself) and a MB's QVL list was barely used by anyone I know (perhaps to look up some ODD part but otherwise...Just not enough covered at launch etc). If I waited for my fav stuff to be included in each list I'd never build. Just buy top parts and you don't worry much about this crap.

    That said, if my job was on the line, I'd check the list, but not because I was worried about ever being wrong...LOL. I just don't have a liars face. I'd be laughing about how stupid I think it is after so many builds and seeing so many "incompatible memory" fixed in seconds in the hands of someone not afraid to disable the SPD and get to work (or hook up with a strap before blowing gigs of modules, nics repeatedly etc). Even mixing modules means nothing then (again, maybe if I was pitching servers...DUH....1 error can be millions) after just trying to make issues exists with mixing/matching but with timings CORRECT. No, they will work, if set correct barring some REAL electrical issue (like a PSU model from brand X frying a particular model mboard - say dozens in a weekend, a few myself!).

    Too many DIY people out that that really have no business building a PC. No idea what ESD is (no just because it took a hit and still works doesn't mean it isn't damaged), A+ what?? Training? Pfft, it's just some screws and slots...Whatever...Said the guy with machine after machine that have never quite worked right...LOL. If you live in SF or some wet joint OK (leo leporte etc? still around), otherwise, just buy a dell/hp and call it a day. They exist because most of you are incapable of doing the job correctly, or god forbid troubleshooting ANYTHING that doesn't just WORK OOB.
  • Qasar - Sunday, November 7, 2021 - link

    blah blah blah blah blah
  • Midland_Dog - Saturday, November 27, 2021 - link

    people like you cost amd sales
    silly amdumb
  • cyberpunx_r_ded - Friday, November 5, 2021 - link

    sounds like a Mobo problem, not a CPU problem....for someone who has put together "hundreds of systems" you should know that by the symptoms.

    That motherboard is known to be dog sh1t btw.
  • DominionSeraph - Saturday, November 6, 2021 - link

    Note Intel doesn't allow "dog sh1t motherboards" to happen, especially at the $300+ price point. That makes it an AMD issue.
    I can refurb Dell after Dell after Dell after Dell, all of them on low-end chipsets and still on the release BIOS, and they all work fabulously.
    Meanwhile two years into x570 and AMD is still working on getting USB working right.

    I think I'll put this thing on the market and see if I can recoup the better part of an i9 12900k build. I may have to drop down to one of the i7 6700's or the i7 4770k system I have until they're in stock, but that's really no issue.
  • Netmsm - Saturday, November 6, 2021 - link

    It's a pleasure to not have p*gheaded amateurs in the AMD zone.
    Others are telling you it's not AMD issue but you spamming it's AMD, AMD, AMD... having got the wrong and of the stick.
  • Wrs - Saturday, November 6, 2021 - link

    @Netmsm Regardless of whether the blame lies with ASRock for the above issue, it remains a fact that AMD didn't fix a USB connectivity problem in Zen 3 until 6-7 months after initial availability. Partly that was because the installed base of guinea pigs was constricted by limited product, but it goes to show that quick and widespread product rollouts have a better chance of ironing out the kinks. (Source if you've been under a rock heh

    And then recently we had Windows 11 performance regressions with Zen 3 cache and sandboxed security. These user experience hiccups suggest one company perceptibly lags the other in platform support. It's just something I've noticed switching between Intel and AMD. I might think this all to be normal were I loyal to one platform.
  • Netmsm - Sunday, November 7, 2021 - link

    I didn't realize we're here to discuss minor issues/incompatibilities of the Intel's rival. I thought we're here to talk about major inefficiencies besides improvements of Intel's new architecture. Sorry!
  • Wrs - Sunday, November 7, 2021 - link

    @Netmsm That's no minor issue/incompatibility. Maybe for you, but a USB dropout is not trivial! Think missing keystrokes, stuttering audio for USB headsets and capture cards. It didn't affect every user, and was intermittent, which was part of the difficulty. I put off a Ryzen 5000 purchase for 2 months waiting for them to fix it. (I also put it off for 4 months before that because of lack of stock lol.)

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