Performance

I’m not a big one on posting first-party benchmark results, but the high-level overview from Intel was this:

  • At 3.3 GHz, 12900K is +19% better in Single Thread Performance over the 11900K
  • Over the 11900K, the 12900K is +19% better at 1080p High with RTX 3090
  • Over the 11900K, the 12900K gets +84% better fps when concurrently streaming
  • Over the 11900K, the 12900K is +22-100% better in content creation (Adobe)
  • Over the 11900K, the 12900K is +50% faster in BlenderMT at 241W (vs 250W)
  • Over the 11900K, the 12900K performs the same in BlenderMT at only 65W (vs 250W)

All of Intel’s tests were using Windows 11, with DDR5-4400 vs DDR4-3200. Intel did have a small one slide of comparisons against AMD in gaming with an RTX 3090, however they stated they were done without the latest L3 patch fix, and admitted that they would have preferred to show us full results. By the time this article goes live, we may have seen those results at Intel’s event.

This is a reasonable set of data, very focused on the Core i9, but when the reviews come out we’ll be able to see where it sits compared to the other parts, as well as the competition. The only thing that concerns me right now leading up to the launch is the behavior of demoting workloads to E-cores when not in focus when on the Balanced Power Plan (mentioned on the Thread Director page). It won’t be until I get hands-on with the hardware as to whether I see it as an issue or not.

Another factor to mention is DRM. Intel has made statements to this, but there is an issue with Denuvo as it uses part of the CPU configuration to identify systems to stop piracy. Due to the hybrid nature, Denuvo might register starting on a different core (P vs E) as a new system, and eventually lock you out of the game either temporarily or permanently. Out of the top 200 games, around 20 are affected and Intel says it still has a couple more to fix. It’s working with Denuvo for a high-level fix from their side, and with developers to fix from their end as well. Intel says it’s a bit harder with older titles, especially when there’s no development going on, or the IP is far away from its original source. A solution to this would be to only launch those games on specific cores, but look out for more updates as time marches on.

Conclusions

Well, it’s almost here. It looks like Intel will take the ST crown, although MT is a bit of a different story, and might rely explicitly on the software being used or if the difference in performance is worth the price. The use of the hybrid architecture might be an early pain point, and it will be interesting to see if Thread Director remains resilient to the issues. The bump up to Windows 11 is also another potential rock in the stream, and we’re seeing some teething issues from users, although right now users who are looking to early adopt a new CPU are likely more than ready to adopt a new version of Windows at the same time.

The discourse on DDR4 vs DDR5 is one I’ve had for almost a year now. Memory vendors seem ready to start seeding kits to retailers, however the expense over DDR4 is somewhat eyewatering. The general expectation is that DDR5 won’t offer much performance uplift over a good kit of DDR4, or might even be worse. The benefit of DDR5 then at this point is more to start on that DDR5 ladder, where the only way to go is up. This will be Intel’s last DDR4 platform on desktop it seems.

On the processors themselves, the Core i5 and Core i7 parts look very competitive and in line with respective popular AMD processors. Both the Core i5 and Core i7 have extra E-cores, so we’ll see if that comes in handy for extra performance, or they’ll just end up burning power and performance per watt needs re-examining. The Core i9 challenge is probably sided on Intel for single thread, but all the questions will be over proper multi-threaded performance.

Intel 12th Gen Core, Alder Lake
AnandTech Cores
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Base
E-Core
Turbo
P-Core
Base
P-Core
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IGP Base
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i9-12900K 8+8/24 2400 3900 3200 5200 770 125 241 $589
i9-12900KF 8+8/24 2400 3900 3200 5200 - 125 241 $564
i7-12700K 8+4/20 2700 3800 3600 5000 770 125 190 $409
i7-12700KF 8+4/20 2700 3800 3600 5000 - 125 190 $384
i5-12600K 6+4/20 2800 3600 3700 4900 770 125 150 $289
i5-12600KF 6+4/20 2800 3600 3700 4900 - 125 150 $264

After not much CPU news for a while, it’s time to get in gear and find out what Intel has been cooking. Come back on November 4th for our review.

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  • Oxford Guy - Friday, October 29, 2021 - link

    Things are rarely ‘only’. It’s also very rare for anyone to mention the inflation from the money printing.
  • mode_13h - Saturday, October 30, 2021 - link

    Just to nit-pick, a lot of it isn't money-printing. What qualifies as money-printing is the bond buying programs by US Treasury and possibly other central banks. However, a lot of what's going on is debt-financed government spending.
  • melgross - Friday, October 29, 2021 - link

    AMD’s prices were less because few wanted their chips. As that began to change, so did their prices.

    There’s nothing nefarious about AMD or Intel pricing. It’s simple supply and demand.
  • Qasar - Friday, October 29, 2021 - link

    melgross, here you are crying about amds prices, were you also crying when intels prices kept going up ? some how i doubt that very much.
  • melgross - Wednesday, November 3, 2021 - link

    I’m not crying about either. Where do you get the crying part from? What I said is true. Don’t get so emotional about this.
  • Spunjji - Friday, October 29, 2021 - link

    Until Tiger Lake H, Intel *were* still selling 4C dies as "premium" products in 2021 😅
  • Sivar - Wednesday, October 27, 2021 - link

    Real-world benchmarks are hell on hypotheses. Wait for the reviews.
  • OreoCookie - Wednesday, October 27, 2021 - link

    That’s very short-sighted: AMD and Intel have staggered releases so that one can claim the performance crown for a while for a few months until the other releases new products.

    Besides, Zen3+ seems to be a very good bandaid. If AMD’s performance claims are to be believed (and they have been very accurate with their Zen-line of processors), Zen3+ will be competitive with Alderlake but have much lower power consumption. So Intel will still be far behind in terms of efficiency and be roughly on par in terms of performance.

    Efficiency matters greatly because Intel is using the same core design across machines. Lower efficiency means that they can’t scale up their server CPUs to the same degree AMD can. And that laptop CPUs are still less efficient, i. e. lower battery life at equivalent performance.
  • whatthe123 - Wednesday, October 27, 2021 - link

    the only thing AMD claimed is about 15% general uplift in the games they tested. they are pretty reliable, but they also didn't make any claims about anything else, so it doesn't really make sense to expect any more than that unless announce it.
  • haukionkannel - Thursday, October 28, 2021 - link

    Cache will affect only certain applications. But games actually could benefit from it (not all games, but some).
    So all depends on what you do with your computer and what does it cost... I am expecting Zen3+ to cost much more than alder lake! Much much more... But Alder lake motherboard are expected to cost quite a lot and ddr5 memory whyle not as expensive as I did expect are still 50% more than ddr4... So in total Zen3+ may be sensible upgrade to some Zen owners!
    For total ddr5 build I would wait Zen4 and maybe even Intel upgrade after Alder lake to see if we get decent ddr5 by then and almost normal price. Maybe only 15% extra over ddr4 in that time period. First gen new is.... well expensive for those who has money to jump to something new as soon as it is available. Second and third gen are where we have more mature tech and hype is less affecting the prising!

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