Performance

I’m not a big one on posting first-party benchmark results, but the high-level overview from Intel was this:

  • At 3.3 GHz, 12900K is +19% better in Single Thread Performance over the 11900K
  • Over the 11900K, the 12900K is +19% better at 1080p High with RTX 3090
  • Over the 11900K, the 12900K gets +84% better fps when concurrently streaming
  • Over the 11900K, the 12900K is +22-100% better in content creation (Adobe)
  • Over the 11900K, the 12900K is +50% faster in BlenderMT at 241W (vs 250W)
  • Over the 11900K, the 12900K performs the same in BlenderMT at only 65W (vs 250W)

All of Intel’s tests were using Windows 11, with DDR5-4400 vs DDR4-3200. Intel did have a small one slide of comparisons against AMD in gaming with an RTX 3090, however they stated they were done without the latest L3 patch fix, and admitted that they would have preferred to show us full results. By the time this article goes live, we may have seen those results at Intel’s event.

This is a reasonable set of data, very focused on the Core i9, but when the reviews come out we’ll be able to see where it sits compared to the other parts, as well as the competition. The only thing that concerns me right now leading up to the launch is the behavior of demoting workloads to E-cores when not in focus when on the Balanced Power Plan (mentioned on the Thread Director page). It won’t be until I get hands-on with the hardware as to whether I see it as an issue or not.

Another factor to mention is DRM. Intel has made statements to this, but there is an issue with Denuvo as it uses part of the CPU configuration to identify systems to stop piracy. Due to the hybrid nature, Denuvo might register starting on a different core (P vs E) as a new system, and eventually lock you out of the game either temporarily or permanently. Out of the top 200 games, around 20 are affected and Intel says it still has a couple more to fix. It’s working with Denuvo for a high-level fix from their side, and with developers to fix from their end as well. Intel says it’s a bit harder with older titles, especially when there’s no development going on, or the IP is far away from its original source. A solution to this would be to only launch those games on specific cores, but look out for more updates as time marches on.

Conclusions

Well, it’s almost here. It looks like Intel will take the ST crown, although MT is a bit of a different story, and might rely explicitly on the software being used or if the difference in performance is worth the price. The use of the hybrid architecture might be an early pain point, and it will be interesting to see if Thread Director remains resilient to the issues. The bump up to Windows 11 is also another potential rock in the stream, and we’re seeing some teething issues from users, although right now users who are looking to early adopt a new CPU are likely more than ready to adopt a new version of Windows at the same time.

The discourse on DDR4 vs DDR5 is one I’ve had for almost a year now. Memory vendors seem ready to start seeding kits to retailers, however the expense over DDR4 is somewhat eyewatering. The general expectation is that DDR5 won’t offer much performance uplift over a good kit of DDR4, or might even be worse. The benefit of DDR5 then at this point is more to start on that DDR5 ladder, where the only way to go is up. This will be Intel’s last DDR4 platform on desktop it seems.

On the processors themselves, the Core i5 and Core i7 parts look very competitive and in line with respective popular AMD processors. Both the Core i5 and Core i7 have extra E-cores, so we’ll see if that comes in handy for extra performance, or they’ll just end up burning power and performance per watt needs re-examining. The Core i9 challenge is probably sided on Intel for single thread, but all the questions will be over proper multi-threaded performance.

Intel 12th Gen Core, Alder Lake
AnandTech Cores
P+E/T
E-Core
Base
E-Core
Turbo
P-Core
Base
P-Core
Turbo
IGP Base
W
Turbo
W
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i9-12900K 8+8/24 2400 3900 3200 5200 770 125 241 $589
i9-12900KF 8+8/24 2400 3900 3200 5200 - 125 241 $564
i7-12700K 8+4/20 2700 3800 3600 5000 770 125 190 $409
i7-12700KF 8+4/20 2700 3800 3600 5000 - 125 190 $384
i5-12600K 6+4/20 2800 3600 3700 4900 770 125 150 $289
i5-12600KF 6+4/20 2800 3600 3700 4900 - 125 150 $264

After not much CPU news for a while, it’s time to get in gear and find out what Intel has been cooking. Come back on November 4th for our review.

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  • Qasar - Friday, October 29, 2021 - link

    yea, according to leaks maybe. remember how the 1100 series went ?

    untill reviews are out, its all speculation
  • Josh128 - Wednesday, October 27, 2021 - link

    Intel's only chance to beat Zen 4 is if they get their "Intel 4" 7nm process going. If they have to stay on "Intel 7" 10nm, thats not going to cut it against TSMC 5 /5 +.
  • regsEx - Wednesday, October 27, 2021 - link

    Why calling Intel 4 as 7 nm process and Intel 7 as 10 nm process, but not mentioning TSMC N5 as 9 nm process?
  • Spunjji - Thursday, October 28, 2021 - link

    Two reasons:
    N5 was never renamed
    "Intel 7" is still not equivalent to TSMC N7 on either density or power characteristics. Who knows how "Intel 4" will compare to N5 - if it's a similar relationship to Intel 7 and TSMC N7, then it should be called Intel 6.
  • shady28 - Thursday, October 28, 2021 - link

    Intel 7 aka 10ESF is about the same density as TSMC N7FF+. It is reportedly 100.76 MT/mm2 vs TSMC N7FF of 96.5 MT/mm2. That's easy to validate doing your own research. This doesn't mean that Intel is not behind TSMC 5nm, but it is no longer behind their 7nm.

    https://semiwiki.com/semiconductor-manufacturers/s...

    https://fuse.wikichip.org/news/1371/a-look-at-inte...
  • Spunjji - Friday, October 29, 2021 - link

    @shady28 - those are the official figures, sure. It's a little more difficult to validate those, but luckily I have done my own research!

    In reality neither Intel nor TSMC can hit their claimed densities in actual chips, for a variety of reasons. The best information we have suggests that AMD have managed 62.8MTr/mm² on TSMC N7 with Renoir (Cezanne is an oddball because it has blank die space). Meanwhile Intel's competing chip - Ice Lake - clocked in at 53.2MTr/mm² on 10nm+. It's not a vast difference, but it's a difference all the same.

    What we don't know is how the 10 SF and 10 ESF (now Intel 7) process changes have affected density. There's circumstantial evidence to suggest that 10 SF involved a relaxation of density, but we don't really know because Intel have been extremely tight-lipped about it.
  • Zoolook - Saturday, October 30, 2021 - link

    In efficiency they sure are i.e performance/watt on the CPU's produced they are way behind.
  • melgross - Friday, October 29, 2021 - link

    It’s really more like a 7nm Intel process.
  • Samus - Friday, October 29, 2021 - link

    What's important of note here is AMD has had a fantastic run, effectively beating Intel in most categories for the last few years. Now Intel may be caught up and they are neck and neck.

    But this wouldn't have happened unless Intel had a fire under their ass.
  • melgross - Friday, October 29, 2021 - link

    The way AMD had a fire under their ass

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