The AMD Ryzen 7 5700G, Ryzen 5 5600G, and Ryzen 3 5300G Review
by Dr. Ian Cutress on August 4, 2021 1:45 PM ESTCPU Tests: Synthetic
Most of the people in our industry have a love/hate relationship when it comes to synthetic tests. On the one hand, they’re often good for quick summaries of performance and are easy to use, but most of the time the tests aren’t related to any real software. Synthetic tests are often very good at burrowing down to a specific set of instructions and maximizing the performance out of those. Due to requests from a number of our readers, we have the following synthetic tests.
Linux OpenSSL Speed: SHA256
One of our readers reached out in early 2020 and stated that he was interested in looking at OpenSSL hashing rates in Linux. Luckily OpenSSL in Linux has a function called ‘speed’ that allows the user to determine how fast the system is for any given hashing algorithm, as well as signing and verifying messages.
OpenSSL offers a lot of algorithms to choose from, and based on a quick Twitter poll, we narrowed it down to the following:
- rsa2048 sign and rsa2048 verify
- sha256 at 8K block size
- md5 at 8K block size
For each of these tests, we run them in single thread and multithreaded mode. All the graphs are in our benchmark database, Bench, and we use the sha256 results in published reviews.
GeekBench 5: Link
As a common tool for cross-platform testing between mobile, PC, and Mac, GeekBench is an ultimate exercise in synthetic testing across a range of algorithms looking for peak throughput. Tests include encryption, compression, fast Fourier transform, memory operations, n-body physics, matrix operations, histogram manipulation, and HTML parsing.
I’m including this test due to popular demand, although the results do come across as overly synthetic, and a lot of users often put a lot of weight behind the test due to the fact that it is compiled across different platforms (although with different compilers).
We have both GB5 and GB4 results in our benchmark database. GB5 was introduced to our test suite after already having tested ~25 CPUs, and so the results are a little sporadic by comparison. These spots will be filled in when we retest any of the CPUs.
CPU Tests: SPEC
SPEC2017 and SPEC2006 is a series of standardized tests used to probe the overall performance between different systems, different architectures, different microarchitectures, and setups. The code has to be compiled, and then the results can be submitted to an online database for comparison. It covers a range of integer and floating point workloads, and can be very optimized for each CPU, so it is important to check how the benchmarks are being compiled and run.
We run the tests in a harness built through Windows Subsystem for Linux, developed by our own Andrei Frumusanu. WSL has some odd quirks, with one test not running due to a WSL fixed stack size, but for like-for-like testing is good enough. SPEC2006 is deprecated in favor of 2017, but remains an interesting comparison point in our data. Because our scores aren’t official submissions, as per SPEC guidelines we have to declare them as internal estimates from our part.
For compilers, we use LLVM both for C/C++ and Fortan tests, and for Fortran we’re using the Flang compiler. The rationale of using LLVM over GCC is better cross-platform comparisons to platforms that have only have LLVM support and future articles where we’ll investigate this aspect more. We’re not considering closed-sourced compilers such as MSVC or ICC.
clang version 10.0.0
-Ofast -fomit-frame-pointer
-march=x86-64
-mtune=core-avx2
-mfma -mavx -mavx2
Our compiler flags are straightforward, with basic –Ofast and relevant ISA switches to allow for AVX2 instructions. We decided to build our SPEC binaries on AVX2, which puts a limit on Haswell as how old we can go before the testing will fall over. This also means we don’t have AVX512 binaries, primarily because in order to get the best performance, the AVX-512 intrinsic should be packed by a proper expert, as with our AVX-512 benchmark. All of the major vendors, AMD, Intel, and Arm, all support the way in which we are testing SPEC.
To note, the requirements for the SPEC licence state that any benchmark results from SPEC have to be labelled ‘estimated’ until they are verified on the SPEC website as a meaningful representation of the expected performance. This is most often done by the big companies and OEMs to showcase performance to customers, however is quite over the top for what we do as reviewers.
For each of the SPEC targets we are doing, SPEC2006 1T, SPEC2017 1T, and SPEC2017 nT, rather than publish all the separate test data in our reviews, we are going to condense it down into a few interesting data points. The full per-test values are in our benchmark database.
We’re still running the tests for the Ryzen 5 5600G and Ryzen 3 5300G, but the Ryzen 7 5700G scores strong.
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mode_13h - Sunday, August 8, 2021 - link
I mean the gap between 3000G and 5000G APUs. Alder lake will probably also add some downward pricing pressure.mode_13h - Sunday, August 8, 2021 - link
In the meantime, I noticed Ryzen 5 3300X is back in stock, and available for $150!GeoffreyA - Sunday, August 8, 2021 - link
My humble 2200G is running well, but eventually, when I've got money to spare, I'd like to get something like a 5600G. Encoding performance is close to tripled, which is attractive. Heck, even the 5300G looks quite nice.Samus - Monday, August 9, 2021 - link
That's true. The Ryzen APU's have been so ridiculously fast for generations that even a 2018-era CPU is entirely competitive today. It isn't like games are going to play that much different - we'll have to see how demanding Battlefield 2042 is.GeoffreyA - Tuesday, August 10, 2021 - link
I think post Sandy Bridge, most CPUs have been holding up a lot longer than they used to.ballsystemlord - Saturday, August 7, 2021 - link
The "Ryzen 5 APUs (65W)" table is still mixed up. The 5600G isn't an 8 core APU. Neither is the 4650G. You should probably double check the other quoted specs.Spelling and grammar errors:
"The Ryzen 7 5700G has the quickest thread-to-thread latency, however does offer a single slowest core-to-core latency."
Incorrect grammar:
"The Ryzen 7 5700G has the smallest thread-to-thread latency. However, it also offers the single slowest core-to-core latency."
"Interestingly this processor uses more power when six cores are loaded."
Missing comma:
"Interestingly, this processor uses more power when six cores are loaded."
"Photoscan shows good gen-on-gen performance uplifts, with the 5700G on par with the 11700K despite being lower powered."
Incorrect grammar:
"Photoscan shows good gen-on-gen performance uplifts, with the 5700G on par with the 11700K despite using less power."
"GIMP is a funny test where it gets harder the more cores you have - that's why the quad cores win here. However slow quad cores (like the 2400G still let you down."
Missing paranthesis:
"GIMP is a funny test where it gets harder the more cores you have - that's why the quad cores win here. However slow quad cores (like the 2400G,) still let you down."
"We're still running the tests for the Ryzen 5 5600G and Ryzen 3 5300G, but the Ryzen 7 5700G scores strong."
"Strongly" is how you score:
"We're still running the tests for the Ryzen 5 5600G and Ryzen 3 5300G, but the Ryzen 7 5700G scores strongly."
"Historically a processor with integrated graphics fit the bill."
Missing comma:
"Historically, a processor with integrated graphics fit the bill."
"... then someone like my father can browse the web and do office stuff on his 32-inch display and join the weekly family zoom call without having to sit there for the system to respond."
Sitting is what we normally do unless we have a standing desk:
"... then someone like my father can browse the web and do office stuff on his 32-inch display and join the weekly family zoom call without having to wait around for the system to respond."
"The problem with these though is that the 5300G isn't coming to market, at something like $159."
Missing comma:
"The problem with these though, is that the 5300G isn't coming to market, at something like $159."
"However it is not always the silicon that matters."
Missing comma:
"However, it is not always the silicon that matters."
"In the same way that every year we get more performance, every year the required specifications for modern games go up."
"goes" not "go".
"In the same way that every year we get more performance, every year the required specifications for modern games goes up."
"Not only that but new technologies such as AMD?s Fidelity SuperFX Resolution are aimed at getting a better experience with less compute power."
Missing comma:
"Not only that, but new technologies such as AMD?s Fidelity SuperFX Resolution are aimed at getting a better experience with less compute power."
"Moving up to Zen 3 with a larger L3 cache has really unlocked more of the performance in these cores and in the graphics."
You should qualify the type of graphics considiring the closeness of the "in":
"Moving up to Zen 3 with a larger L3 cache has really unlocked more of the performance in these cores and in the integrated graphics."
"The question on that then becomes how much extra will it cost,..."
Missing comma:
"The question on that then becomes, how much extra will it cost,..."
umwmedia - Sunday, August 8, 2021 - link
AMD Ryzen 5000 CPU vs APU Comparisons?WaltC - Sunday, August 8, 2021 - link
Lots of pent-up demand for these APUs. I was impressed that AMD actually got them out in quantity on the release date! In fact, judging by seeing the US AMD store fully stocked with CPUs, including these, for several days running, now, I think it might be safe to say that the CPU shortage--at least for AMD CPUs--is finally coming to an end. AMD store is selling them all for MSRP--so there's no room for scalpers! Perhaps this means the GPU shortages are not long for this world--we can hope.mode_13h - Monday, August 9, 2021 - link
I noticed even the R9 5950X is in stock (Newegg even has it on sale for $805), but we don't know for how long. I'm guessing AMD gets wafers in batches, which leaves open the possibility of another dry spell before long.HankInTexas - Monday, August 9, 2021 - link
According to the AMD published specs, this APU only supports PCIe gen3. So, that hot, expensive Gen 4 M.2 NVMe SSD you want to use on your new motherboard will not achieve the speed you paid dearly for.