With the high demand for semiconductors causing most companies to focus on their high margin, high profitability components, I wasn’t expecting to see many launches of low-to-mid range hardware for the rest of 2021. AMD has surprised me in announcing its entry and mid-level processors with integrated graphics today, offering up to eight Zen 3 cores and Vega 8 graphics, but AMD is pointing out that these models are for the pre-built system market only right now. AMD has plans to enable a full retail offering for these components, but this will happen later in the year.

Ryzen 5000 Gets a G

AMD’s processors with integrated graphics onboard, known as APUs, have easily identifiable product names because they all end in a G, for graphics I presume. AMD has launched several generations of APUs built upon its Ryzen architecture:

  • Ryzen 2000G (Raven Ridge), built on 14nm Zen with Vega 11
  • Ryzen 3000G (Picasso), built on 12nm Zen+ with Vega 11
  • Ryzen 4000G (Renoir), built on 7nm Zen 2 with Vega 8
  • Ryzen 5000G (Cezanne), built on 7nm Zen 3 with Vega 8

Both 2000G and 3000G offered parts at retail, however we never saw a formal retail launch of Ryzen 4000G. This product line was focused for the pre-built market, especially for business ‘PRO’ use. We ended up obtaining three of the APUs in this market, and put them to the test.

Testing The World’s Best APUs: Desktop AMD Ryzen 4750G, 4650G and 4350G

Today the Ryzen 5000G series comes out to play, again for pre-built systems, but AMD is this time making clear that it will also come to retail for regular systems and gaming systems. These new Ryzen 5000G APUs are built on TSMC’s 7nm process, and will feature eight Zen 3 cores with Vega 8 graphics. All CPUs will also have 24 lanes of PCIe 3.0 and support DDR4-3200.

AMD Ryzen 5000G Series APUs
AnandTech Core /
Thread
Base
Freq
Turbo
Freq
GPU
CUs
GPU
Freq
PCIe
*
TDP
Ryzen 5000G
Ryzen 7 5700G 8 / 16 3800 4600 8 2000 16+4+4 65 W
Ryzen 7 5700GE 8 / 16 3200 4600 8 2000 16+4+4 35 W
Ryzen 5 5600G 6 / 12 3900 4400 7 1900 16+4+4 65 W
Ryzen 5 5600GE 6 / 12 3400 4400 7 1900 16+4+4 35 W
Ryzen 3 5300G 4 / 8 4000 4200 6 1700 16+4+4 65 W
Ryzen 3 5300GE 4 / 8 3600 4200 6 1700 16+4+4 35 W
Ryzen 4000G
Ryzen 7 4700G 8 / 16 3600 4400 8 2100 16+4+4 65 W
Ryzen 7 4700GE 8 / 16 3100 4300 8 2000 16+4+4 35 W
Ryzen 5 4600G 6 / 12 3700 4200 7 1900 16+4+4 65 W
Ryzen 5 4600GE 6 / 12 3300 4200 7 1900 16+4+4 35 W
Ryzen 3 4300G 4 / 8 3800 4000 6 1700 16+4+4 65 W
Ryzen 3 4300GE 4 / 8 3500 4000 6 1700 16+4+4 35 W
*PCIe lanes on the SoC are listed in GFX+Chipset+Storage

AMD has had several products with Zen 3, including the regular Ryzen 5000 and EPYC 7003 processor lineups, and 5000G will take on the same feature set. This means that AMD will deal with 8-core CCX designs with a unified L3 cache across all the cores within a CCX. While the Ryzen and EPYC processors offer 32 MB of L3 cache for eight cores, the Ryzen 5000G will have 16 MB of L3, but each core will access to the full 16 MB. The Ryzen 5000G series remains a monolithic design.

Users might be disheartened to hear that this is another APU with Vega 8 graphics. AMD made it clear that the jump from 12nm to 7nm gave them a lot of extra frequency, from 1400 MHz to 2100 MHz, which enabled them to optimize for 8 compute units of Vega on 7nm, rather than the 11 compute units on 12nm, and still give a substantial speed-up in performance. AMD’s philosophy with the APU line has been to mix and match what is needed on the product at the right time, and enabling RDNA/RDNA2 on an APU at the same time as changing the CPU core might be a couple of steps too much with a new product. However it is what it is, and the increased L3 cache range for the cores will have a direct knock-on to graphics performance.

The top processor is the Ryzen 7 5700G, built with eight Zen 3 cores, offering a base frequency of 3.8 GHz and a peak turbo of 4.6 GHz. The whole chip has a 65 W TDP, which based on AMD’s socket specifications, means that 88 W is likely to be observed in retail configurations. The Ryzen 5 5600G is a similar design, but with six cores and slightly lower frequencies. The Ryzen 5 5300G is slightly different in that it has only 4 cores, and AMD has cut the L3 cache to 8 MB.

Each of the 5000G processors will have 5000GE counterparts targeting 35 W TDP. This TDP change is reflected in the lower base frequencies and likely a lower sustained power.

These processors have already been spotted inside new Dell pre-built gaming systems. At a time when discrete graphics are hard to come by, and we’ve seen pre-built systems being sold without graphics cards, an injection of APUs might help fill the void. However, APUs might end up going up in price as a result – perhaps why AMD wants to keep them in an OEM configuration for now.

Exact SEP (retail pricing) and retail release dates were not disclosed.

Retail Systems

HP Germany has a system listed, the Omen 25L Desktop GT12-1300ng. Ryzen 7 5700G with an NVIDIA RTX 3060 Ti, which makes us wonder what the APU part of the processor is being used for.

Comparing to Desktop CPUs

We've been asked to showcase the difference between the CPUs and APUs.

AMD Ryzen 5600 Variants
AnandTech Core /
Thread
Base
Freq
Turbo
Freq
GPU
CUs
GPU
Freq
PCIe
 
L3
MB
TDP
Ryzen 5000G
Ryzen 5 5600X 6 / 12 3700 4600 - - 4.0 x24 32 65 W
Ryzen 5 5600G 6 / 12 3900 4400 7 1900 3.0 x24 16 65 W

If we put side by side the Ryzen 5 5600X, the CPU, with Ryzen 5 5600G, we see a lot of similarities. Both have six cores and 12 threads, both run at 65 W, and both have 24 PCIe lanes.

However, there are a number of differences as well. The 5600X CPU has an extra +200 MHz on the turbo frequency, whereas the 5600G APU has +200 on the base frequency and it also has integrated graphics. On top of this, the CPU has PCIe 4.0 rather than PCIe 3.0, and the CPU has double the cache. If we go up to the 8-core parts, then that disparity changes a little. 

AMD Ryzen 7 5000 Variants
AnandTech Core /
Thread
Base
Freq
Turbo
Freq
GPU
CUs
GPU
Freq
PCIe
 
L3
MB
TDP
Ryzen 5000G
Ryzen 7 5800X 8 / 16 3800 4700 - - 4.0 x24 32 105 W
Ryzen 7 5700G 8 / 16 3800 4600 8 2000 3.0 x24 16 65 W

For this comparison, there is no base frequency difference, but the turbo is higher on the CPU. The APU still has the integrated graphics, but is only PCIe 3.0 off the processor and not PCIe 4.0 like the CPU. We still have the cache difference.

So the question is which would you rather have - 100-200 MHz extra CPU frequency, double the L3 cache, and PCIe 4.0, or would you rather have integrated graphics? Interesting times ahead.

Chipset Support

AMD has confirmed that X570, B550, and A520 motherboards will support the new 5000G processors. X470 and B450 motherboards might also be supported, but that depends on the motherboard manufacturer. At this time, for anyone lucky enough to get one on the open market, special Beta BIOSes will be needed to enable full performance.

 

Ryzen 9 5900 and Ryzen 7 5800: New CPUs also OEM Only

Aside from the official APU announcement, two more processors appeared on AMD's list of parts. The Ryzen 9 5900 and Ryzen 7 5800, both without X at the end, are equivalent 65 W parts but set for the OEM market as well. At this time, AMD has not stated if these processors will ever come to retail.

AMD Ryzen 5000 Series Processors
Zen 3 Microarchitecture
AnandTech Core/
Thread
Base
Freq
1T
Freq
L3
C$
IGP PCIe TDP SEP
Ryzen 9 5950X 16 32 3400 4900 64 MB - 4.0 105 W $799
Ryzen 9 5900X 12 24 3700 4800 64 MB - 4.0 105 W $549
Ryzen 9 5900 12 24 3000 4700 64 MB - 4.0 65 W OEM
Ryzen 7 5800X 8 16 3800 4700 32 MB - 4.0 105 W $449
Ryzen 7 5800 8 16 3400 4600 32 MB - 4.0 65 W OEM
Ryzen 7 5700G 8 16 3800 4600 16 MB Vega8 3.0 65 W OEM
Ryzen 7 5700GE 8 16 3200 4600 16 MB Vega8 3.0 35 W OEM
Ryzen 5 5600X 6 12 3700 4600 32 MB - 4.0 65 W $299*
Ryzen 5 5600G 6 12 3900 4400 16 MB Vega7 3.0 65 W OEM
Ryzen 5 5600GE 6 12 3400 4400 16 MB Vega7 3.0 35 W OEM
Ryzen 3 5300G 4 8 4000 4200 8 MB Vega6 3.0 65 W OEM
Ryzen 3 5300GE 4 8 3600 4200 8 MB Vega6 3.0 35 W OEM

AMD now has 12 processors in its Ryzen 5000 series family. Eight of them are for pre-built OEM systems only, and four are on retail shelves. 

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  • sonny73n - Wednesday, April 14, 2021 - link

    Your logic is dumb as if you pay $2 for a slice of bread instead of a loaf of bread. And NO! They're not making good valuable products. They're just working together to fix prices. It doesn't matter how better a product compared to another. If, say an Intel CPU is about 80% as fast as an AMD's but costs 50% less, then that Intel CPU is a much better product.

    In your capitalism world where dog eats dog or dogs gang up on sheeps. You're either a dog or a sheep. Whichever you are that'll never a good thing because when all the sheeps are gone, only prey the dogs has left is one another.
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  • Qasar - Wednesday, April 14, 2021 - link

    " If, say an Intel CPU is about 80% as fast as an AMD's but costs 50% less, then that Intel CPU is a much better product. "
    nope, if intel charged the same price as the amd cpu, while only being 80% as fast, then its not a better product. in your example, the intel cpu is priced the way it is, so it would sell, any higher, it would be better to spend the extra cash, and get the AMD cpu. with your example, that would imply that when amd was trailing intel in performance, amd had the much better product, as they cost less, while being XX% as fast as intels, your example works both ways.
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  • TheinsanegamerN - Wednesday, April 14, 2021 - link

    Memory bandwidth is a limiting factor. Shocking I know, but stronger APUs will need DDR5. AMD went from 11 cores to 8 and wound up with a significantly faster product anyway. Reply
  • jay139 - Tuesday, April 13, 2021 - link

    Am I the only one that doesn't believe amd's promise of a retail version later?
    They said something similar about the 4000 apu series and we got nothing.
    Reply
  • Gigaplex - Tuesday, April 13, 2021 - link

    "AMD has surprised me in announcing its entry and mid-level processors with integrated graphics today, offering up to eight Zen 3 cores and Vega 8 graphics, but AMD is pointing out that these models are for the pre-built system market only right now. AMD has plans to enable a full retail offering for these components, but this will happen later in the year."

    That's what they said about the Zen 2 APUs. Instead, they're still OEM only, and there's not a single CPU available to the retail market that is compatible with the B550 boards, most (all?) of which have video outputs. If AMD continue to do this, motherboard manufacturers are just going to forgo adding video output support.
    Reply
  • Zizy - Wednesday, April 14, 2021 - link

    Did they ever say 4xxx APUs are going to be available at retail? I recall only "we are announcing OEM only parts". Reply
  • zamroni - Tuesday, April 13, 2021 - link

    this desktop apu will canibalize allocation for laptop apu.
    why amd keeps making this kind of mistake?
    amd should make desktop apu in kabylake g manner, i.e. add gpu dies into vermeer package.
    the gpu can be more powerful hence more useful too
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  • Beany2013 - Thursday, April 15, 2021 - link

    It's not impossible that these dies are lower binned in terms of power usage, so can't be used in mobile SOCs anyway - but they're still fine for desktop. The channel will consume *anything* right now, so why not use them? Reply
  • Samus - Wednesday, April 14, 2021 - link

    I think it’s worth noting in the article that the 4000G’s were OEM-only too. The 3200/3400G is the top APU AMD has offered for two years.

    This is why Intel is killing them with non-OEM buyers building a light use PC, such as a PC for kids or an HTPC. You can’t build a cheap AMD system for under $500 because even the 2019-era 3200G is selling at $70-$80 over MSRP and the platform cost is 20-30% higher than Intel as well.
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  • TheinsanegamerN - Wednesday, April 14, 2021 - link

    AMD doesnt care about budget buyers unless they are getting pummled. Same thing happened in the mid 2000s when netburst was the best intel had. Reply

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