Intel Rocket Lake (14nm) Review: Core i9-11900K, Core i7-11700K, and Core i5-11600K

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• Beaver M. - Wednesday, March 31, 2021 - link

  Acting like GN and HUB gives them lots of AMD fanboy clicks/views.

• Beaver M. - Wednesday, March 31, 2021 - link

  I guess living in isolation for a year makes people more and more antisocial and aggressive. And that then in turn sells well.

• Qasar - Wednesday, March 31, 2021 - link

  so they are amd fanboys cause they told the truth ? more like you are the intel fanboy trying to defend this dud of a cpu. come on, most reviews say they same thing, just some are more harsh, and rightfully so

• Oxford Guy - Wednesday, March 31, 2021 - link

  Tech fans are continually disappointed by the lack of adequate competition in a multitude of tech markets (e.g. GPUs, CPUs, search, leading-edge lithography machines/foundries, etc. etc.)
  
  We saw, way back in the 80s, what happens when competition is shut down. The Japanese seized the DRAM market by dumping, forcing American DRAM makers out of the market — then promptly raising prices drastically.
  
  We went from seeing revolutionary products like the Apple Lisa being replaced by years of toy-grade machines at very high prices. The Lisa shipped with 1 MB of RAM and the first Mac with just 128K. The Apple IIGS shipped with just 256K, many years after the Lisa. We can thank more than Apple's love of fat margins. We can thank inadequate competition.
  
  We have seen that play out, time and time again. Now, it's so bad that it's worse than the bread lines of the USSR. At least if one waited in one of those one might end up with some bread. These days, you have two choices: a line to get a very overpriced product (like the latest iPhone) or you can skip waiting in line because they're nothing to buy (GPUs).

• Oxford Guy - Wednesday, March 31, 2021 - link

  (The Amiga 1000 only shipped with 256K of RAM, too, as I recall. It was a problem throughout the industry, not something due merely to Apple's margins.)

• GeoffreyA - Saturday, April 3, 2021 - link

  I agree with your anti-corporation sentiment, but there's little we can do, except sigh. A worldwide boycotting of their products will work wonders but that'll never happen. As long as these rotters are out to make money---Intel, AMD, Google, the rest---it'll go on like this. Who knows, perhaps there's some vital link to entropy in all this, and why everything always goes awry on earth.

• Oxford Guy - Wednesday, March 31, 2021 - link

  'One of the few tech sites that remained professional and didn't use click baity titles or disrespect intel.'
  
  This article uses bad spin to try to make Intel's product look better than it is.
  
  Just one example:
  
  ‘Intel has stated that in the future it will have cores designed for multiple process nodes at the same time, and so given Rocket Lake’s efficiency at the high frequencies, doesn’t this mean the experiment has failed? I say no, because it teaches Intel a lot in how it designs its silicon’
  
  The spin also includes the testing, using a really loud high-CFM CPU cooler in the Intel and a different quieter one on the AMD.
  
  It's a pile of spin, like the glorified press release stuff trying to turn CEO Pat into some sort of superhero. That stuff sounds like it was written for investors.

• FirstStrike - Wednesday, March 31, 2021 - link

  Ian, you are missing SpecInt and SpectFp suite

• Orkiton - Wednesday, March 31, 2021 - link

  I'm not either Intel or AMD "fanboy" though some sympathy to AMD due to unfair, anti-competitive Intel practices in the past and AMD merit to emerge from their ashes. That said, best wishes to both in the name of progress, innovation and better value to us, the consumers.

• Oxford Guy - Wednesday, March 31, 2021 - link

  The rated TDP is 125 W, although we saw 160 W during a regular load, 225 W peaks with an AVX2 rendering load, and 292 W peak power with an AVX-512 compute load.
  
  ‘Intel’s claimed TDP’ rather than ‘that rated’. The latter implies an independent rating standard/body.
  
  If both processors were found at these prices, then the comparison is a good one – the Ryzen 7 5800X in our testing scored +8% in CPU tests and +1% in gaming tests (1080p Max). The Ryzen is very much the more power-efficient processor, however the Intel has integrated graphics (an argument that disappears with KF at $374).
  
  Again, no specifics about the power consumption difference.
  
  On high-end gaming both processor performed the same, the AMD processor was ahead an average of 8% on CPU workloads, and the AMD processor came across as a lot more efficient and easy to cool, while the Intel processor scored a big lead in AVX-512 workloads.
  
  Again, no specifics about the power consumption difference.
  
  AGAIN, testing AMD with a weaker cooler, even though the CPU will go faster with the loud fast cooling you’re using on Intel.
  
  Makes it APPLES to APPLES.