The LG V60 and VELVET Review: A Classic & A Design Restart
by Andrei Frumusanu on July 15, 2020 9:00 AM ESTGPU Performance
GPU performance of both the V60 and Velvet are also expected to be quite interesting, given the stark differences in the two SoCs. We don’t know too many details of the Adreno 620 and exactly how much less processing elements we have compared to the Adreno 650, but if the power draw of the phones during 3D workloads are any indication of the performance difference, the S765 should be less than half as performant compared to the S865.
Indeed, in all our benchmarks, we see the LG Vevlet with the Snapdragon 765 roughly fare off about 2.5x slower than the Snapdragon 865. That’s a not too great result, and actually puts the new premium chipset in line with the peak performance of a Snapdragon 835 from a few years ago.
The good news here is the power draw of the phone – at around 1.7-1.8W active system load, the chipset is really only using a fraction of the power compared to the flagship SoCs, even the efficient Snapdragon 865. This means that thermal throttling is pretty much impossible for the chipset and the LG Velvet, making its sustained performance figures identical to its peak figures. In this regard, the chip and phone perform more similar to a Snapdragon 845 device, whilst only ever getting lukewarm at worst.
The LG V60’s more performant SoC falls in line with our latest batch of Snapdragon 865 phones. We’re seeing excellent performance and thermal behaviour, with the phone also nearly not throttling at all after prolonged periods – only reaching ~38°C peak skin temperatures.
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s.yu - Wednesday, July 15, 2020 - link
It's supposed to work, out of the box. Are standard so low these days that people expect phones to automatically break once their software is no longer supported? I just pray that updates don't break my phone.Also flagships should generally be expected to be supported for longer, my backup S6E still got a security update this year(not that I asked for it, but as updates go it kept nagging me to accept), and that was a 2015 device.
TheinsanegamerN - Thursday, July 16, 2020 - link
My moto z play hasnt recieved any updates in 2 years, still works perfectly. Hell my note 4 still technically works (without carrier support) and that thing is ancient.eastcoast_pete - Wednesday, July 15, 2020 - link
I am probably not representative of many here, but I find the "non-contemporary" design of the V60 a big plus. Just having a 3.5 mm connector has become rare amongst the so-called flagship phones. The main issue that make me hesitate to buy another LG is the lack of commitment by the company to keep the OS up-to-date until at least 2023. I've been burned by LG before on that. So, LG, put that commitment in writing, and we might have a deal.TheinsanegamerN - Thursday, July 16, 2020 - link
Android phones dont just stop working when OS updates stop, and even Google wouldnt supply updates that long.My note 4 still loads any modern android app, and its running android 5.0. The apps are still updated and get security updates, the underlying framework doesnt relly matter anymore, anything that does has been tied into the play store by now.
Quantumz0d - Thursday, July 16, 2020 - link
Exactly. The OS app support compat is light years ahead of iOS instead of bending over for the new OS update you can control the phone. And the OS itself is downgrading, people should read on Scoped Storage - It removes your access to your own files, apps need to hit share to make it visible to other apps just like iOS, and folders access doesn't exist, File Management is also hit with this, Developers are hit with this by making POSIX I/O libs optimized for generations are thrown out of window for that SAF abomination with performance hit and a total shitshow on copying Apple. The sad part is no Security updates, that could have been done at CTS level or even Playstore modules but no one cares about that which is what many people would be happier to see.The HW is excellent man for this device but no battery replacement unfortunately, Note 4 is the last of that tech, Uv sensor, removable battery, solid performance, it's a great device. I still have my SGS with aftermarket battery for it's DAC chip of Wolfson Audio.
As for the OP's design I agree about how the V60 maintains the old fantastic unique look than the iPhone / Chinese bump riddled ugly tile.
bhupatib - Wednesday, July 15, 2020 - link
1. ToF camera is not 14um it's 1.42. It's not USB 2.0 but USB 3.1 since they are both capable of Desktop Mode which requires 3.1 with displayport spec.
lmcd - Thursday, July 16, 2020 - link
It's 100% possible to max out at USB 2.0 bandwidth, support PD, and support DisplayPort Alt Mode.mrvco - Wednesday, July 15, 2020 - link
My LG V40 is still going strong and it has grown on me quite a bit since I got it shortly after launch at the end of 2018. I received the update to Android 10 and one security update since. I still use it as my day-to-day phone instead of an XS Max. The good news with LG phones is that as long as you are even a little bit patient there is no need to pay list price. I paid $550 for a NIB V40 a month after launch and full price at T-Mobile for the V60 (single screen) is $699.99 now. Without seeing or holding one, at 599€ (and whatever that ends up being in the US), the Velvet is a tough sell though.s.yu - Wednesday, July 15, 2020 - link
>The good news with LG phones is that as long as you are even a little bit patient there is no need to pay list price.Also true for Samsung phones. More people need to see that :)
Actually the only exceptions may be Apple and the Chinese phones, everybody else you can expect discounts through certain channels shortly after shipping.
patel21 - Wednesday, July 15, 2020 - link
Andrei, please post a similar review for A71 if possible.