Maybe AMD do not see the use of it on 4800H, especially if Renoir LPDDR4X support is dual channel (lower bandwidth than DDR4), not quad channel. Although that is exactly what I would want (13" ultraportable H-series with LPDDR4 if quad channel).
AMD has been crushing Intel in all other categories but wasn’t able to in mobile processors specifically single thread performance and power efficiency was behind Intel’s.
Now since both of these issues have been resolved, as said by the AMD, this should be great thing for customers as they have choice in laptops for getting AMD or Intel.
There is no way Intel can match AMD even in another year, AMD are on 7nm EUV while Intel are still on 14nm in desktop and 10nm in mobile. Also, AMD ST performance is equally or slightly better than Intel 10nm while MT performance is more than double. AMD integrated graphics are also waay superior to Intel's.
Intel's mobile high end CPUs have a big issue with boost clocks, they are capped to 4Ghz instead of the advertised 4.5Ghz, its all over the place in Tomsharwdare forums. If AMD can really hit its 4.2Ghz boost then they will significantly surpass Intel's 10nm in ST performance and more than 250% in MT.
ST performance os AMD slides is a fake. We already know Sunny Cove badly beat per GHz a Zen 2 for desktop with fast Drams. Bet they tested the worse Intel laptop available with their generous and well cooled reference design.
Where are you reading that Sunny Cove is beating Zen 2 on desktop, there isn't any benchmarks about it yet or any engineering sample. Even then, by the time Sunny Cove is released, AMD would already have released Zen 3 in 2021.
Hey you are on Anandtech.There is a full article about Sunny Cove core of Mobile Ice Lake (for sale now). A good session of Spec (15W stable) showed the clear per Ghz superiority of Intel Sunny Cove with mobile memory over Zen 2 for desktop with fast Drams and gigantic L3. Sunny Cove is out since middle last year, now is time for Willow Cove in the middle this year, just to stay well ahead Zen 3 a quarter before.
You can't compare Mobile vs Desktop, that doesn't make any sense. What did you smoke? Clock for Clock Zen 2 beats Sunny Clove as Zen 2 has better IPC than any current Intel CPU. Intel's 5Ghz 9900KS is comparable to a Zen 2 at 4Ghz in ST performance.
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neblogai - Wednesday, January 8, 2020 - link
Maybe AMD do not see the use of it on 4800H, especially if Renoir LPDDR4X support is dual channel (lower bandwidth than DDR4), not quad channel. Although that is exactly what I would want (13" ultraportable H-series with LPDDR4 if quad channel).www.pakmegaplace.com - Wednesday, January 8, 2020 - link
AMD has been crushing Intel in all other categories but wasn’t able to in mobile processors specifically single thread performance and power efficiency was behind Intel’s.Now since both of these issues have been resolved, as said by the AMD, this should be great thing for customers as they have choice in laptops for getting AMD or Intel.
Zizo007 - Wednesday, January 8, 2020 - link
There is no way Intel can match AMD even in another year, AMD are on 7nm EUV while Intel are still on 14nm in desktop and 10nm in mobile. Also, AMD ST performance is equally or slightly better than Intel 10nm while MT performance is more than double. AMD integrated graphics are also waay superior to Intel's.Intel's mobile high end CPUs have a big issue with boost clocks, they are capped to 4Ghz instead of the advertised 4.5Ghz, its all over the place in Tomsharwdare forums. If AMD can really hit its 4.2Ghz boost then they will significantly surpass Intel's 10nm in ST performance and more than 250% in MT.
Gondalf - Wednesday, January 8, 2020 - link
ST performance os AMD slides is a fake. We already know Sunny Cove badly beat per GHz a Zen 2 for desktop with fast Drams.Bet they tested the worse Intel laptop available with their generous and well cooled reference design.
Zizo007 - Wednesday, January 8, 2020 - link
How is it fake? Because you decided so?So what you are telling is that Intel is not fake?
What an Intel fanboi. Full of them at AnandTech sadly.
Zizo007 - Wednesday, January 8, 2020 - link
Where are you reading that Sunny Cove is beating Zen 2 on desktop, there isn't any benchmarks about it yet or any engineering sample. Even then, by the time Sunny Cove is released, AMD would already have released Zen 3 in 2021.Gondalf - Wednesday, January 8, 2020 - link
Hey you are on Anandtech.There is a full article about Sunny Cove core of Mobile Ice Lake (for sale now).A good session of Spec (15W stable) showed the clear per Ghz superiority of Intel Sunny Cove with mobile memory over Zen 2 for desktop with fast Drams and gigantic L3.
Sunny Cove is out since middle last year, now is time for Willow Cove in the middle this year, just to stay well ahead Zen 3 a quarter before.
Korguz - Wednesday, January 8, 2020 - link
yea ok sure gondalf.. you also still believe what intel says dont you ??Zizo007 - Thursday, January 9, 2020 - link
You can't compare Mobile vs Desktop, that doesn't make any sense. What did you smoke?Clock for Clock Zen 2 beats Sunny Clove as Zen 2 has better IPC than any current Intel CPU. Intel's 5Ghz 9900KS is comparable to a Zen 2 at 4Ghz in ST performance.
Zizo007 - Wednesday, January 8, 2020 - link
I meant Ryzen 5000 in 2021.