Pentium 4 3.46 Extreme Edition and 925XE: 1066MHz FSB Support is Here

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• AlexWade - Sunday, October 31, 2004 - link

  Now if only I can afford and find one ...

• MMORPGOD - Sunday, October 31, 2004 - link

• IntelUser2000 - Sunday, October 31, 2004 - link

  DDR2 is not a stupid move, its the speed they are at that's stupid. Remember DDR? They first ones ran at 200MHz, which were 50% faster than PC133 and still way faster than the enthusiast 166MHz SDRAMs. DDR's latency were higher, but since their clock is much higher, it wasn't a big problem as DDR2 vs DDR. However, PC1600 DDR still was not a big improvement over PC133, it was when PC2100 came that DDR started to shine.
  
  Another thing:
  Quote:"With the original 925X chipset we were a bit unhappy to see that the Pentium 4's 800MHz FSB was paired with DDR2-533, creating one of those frustrating asynchronous situations."
  
  I think 800MHz bus with DDR2-533 is actually VERY synchronous. First look it doesn't look like it. However since DDR2s latency is higher, it doesn't act like DDR533, it acts like DDR400. There was a Tomshardware review that was trying to predict the performance of 1066MHz bus.
  
  First config was: 800MHz bus, DDR2-533
  Second: 1066MHz bus, DDR2-533
  Third: 1066MHz bus, DDR2-667
  
  Guess which one had the biggest performance benefit? The third one, contrary to most people's belief. I think that tells that because of the DDR2's latency, you need DDR2-667 to perfectly match 1066MHz bus. Since Intel chose to stick with DDR2-533, they have created an asynchronous situation, making the performance not so much better. They should have went DDR2-667 with 1066MHz bus.

• SLIM - Sunday, October 31, 2004 - link

  One thing I didn't catch from anand's review is that the 3.46ee is rated at 110.7 watts according to [H]; just another reason to go AMD. Makes you wonder what the 3.73ee (which is supposed to launch this quarter) will have for a heatsink...
  Prometia for everyone:)

• Tides - Sunday, October 31, 2004 - link

  I remember reading a week or two ago about "AMD is going to have a tough time keeping up," from the lips of an Intel guy.
  
  Was this latest outing with the new P4EE's the proof? Perhaps I lack the foresight to understand what will happen in 6 months time, but in who's world is AMD going to have a hard time keeping up with? Cyrix's?

• Tides - Sunday, October 31, 2004 - link

  "ddr2 is a stupid move."

• Tides - Sunday, October 31, 2004 - link

  not to mention, hi, ddr2 for is a stupid move. high latency, crap bandwidth, not just twice the price since you wouldn't have had to upgrade your ram otherwise if you already had solid ddr1.
  
  it reminds me of rambus. and beta max. and sony's discman. what else? ddr2 should have never come out imo. ddr3 is where it's at, hopefully amd will go straight to ddr3 and save it's customers and themselves the hastle of having to buy new ram, new mobos and so forth just to have to do it again with ddr3. i like faster everything as much as everyone else, but amd 64 proves ddr1 is alive and well, and ddr2 is what? exactly? perhaps in a year down the road, or two; it'll be worth something at the end of it's life cycle, just as ddr3 starts poking it's head about.
  
  

• GhandiInstinct - Sunday, October 31, 2004 - link

  Why don't they just screw any other core and focus on pumping out $1000 EEs? Everyones buying them, might as well. I really would like to know the stats for Intel's sales on their new cpus and chipsets, exact numbers.

• GhandiInstinct - Sunday, October 31, 2004 - link

  #17 I was infering this world is off balance with that reality...

• Gnoad - Sunday, October 31, 2004 - link

  wow. $1000 a pop for a CPU that gets destroyed by processors that cost a quarter as much. Totally asinine.