System Performance

Moving on from SPEC to some of our more traditional laptop tests, I’ve taken the opportunity to add some new tests to the suite, which we’ll include on all laptops going forward. While SPEC is a fantastic set of tests to probe the limits of a platform, not everyone is going to run a workload that runs at nearly 100% CPU utilization for such a long time on a laptop. The 8-Thread tests took 4.5 hours to complete on Ice Lake, and 6.5 hours to complete on Picasso, which is likely not something most people would turn to a thin and light laptop for, so it’s important to see how both platforms perform on shorter tests where they can leverage their peak boost frequencies for a higher percentage of the duration.

PCMark 10

PCMark 10 - Essentials

PCMark 10 - Productivity

PCMark 10 - Digital Content Creation

PCMark 10 - Overall

PCMark 10 consists of several real-world tests, including web, video conferencing, spreadsheets, writing, and more. There are several GPU tests as well, including rendering, and some gaming. The suite also measures application start-up, and all aspects of the system’s performance factor into the score.

Intel’s CPU performance lead shows clearly here again, with significant leads in both the Essentials and Productivity tests, although AMD’s strong GPU pulls the Ryzen system very close on the Digital Content Creation tasks. But that is not enough to turn the tide, and the Ice Lake platform carries this win.

Cinebench R20

Cinebench R20 - Single-Threaded Benchmark

Cinebench R20 - Multi-Threaded Benchmark

Looking at the latest version of Cinebench tells a similar story as to what we’ve seen so far. Ice Lake’s significant IPC lead pulls it way ahead. On the multi-threaded test, the AMD platform does close the gap somewhat, which is similar to the SPEC rate 8 results.

7-Zip

7-Zip Compression

7-Zip Decompression

Checking out the popular 7-Zip file compression tool, the results are in-line with what we see in the desktop space. Intel generally has a lead on the compression side, but AMD claws back at decompression. It is a rare win on the CPU side for AMD here.

Handbrake

Handbrake Transcoding (Software)

Transcoding is a popular task, and Handbrake is one of the most popular tools. For this test, a 1080p movie is converted to 720p using the x264 encoder. Once again, Ice Lake offers significantly more performance when transcoding in software.

Handbrake Transcoding (Hardware)

Handbrake also supports various hardware encoders, such as Intel’s QuickSync, which provides significantly quicker transcodes at the same settings – albeit at larger file sizes and slightly lower quality compared to the software transcode, according to the Handbrake documentation. QuickSync has been very popular, and has been around quite a while. AMD also offers hardware encoding and decoding with their Video Core Next platform. Handbrake does support AMD’s Video Coding Engine (VCE) but the Surface Laptop 3 does not offer this as an option in Handbrake, so it was not able to be tested. As this is the only current Ryzen mobile APU we’ve tested, it may be a driver issue specific to the Surface branded processor.

x264

x264 HD 5.x

x264 HD 5.x

Our previous transcoding test, x264, was also run. Here we see that once again Ice Lake has a significant performance advantage, as it did with Handbrake software encoding.

Web Tests

All of our web tests were run with the current version of Microsoft Edge in Windows 10 1909. Web results are highly impacted by the underlying scripting engine, and Microsoft is going to be moving Edge from the EdgeHTML rendering engine to the Chromium open-source project that powers Google Chrome. When they make this change, expected early in 2020, we’ll revamp our suite with new tests.

Mozilla Kraken 1.1

Google Octane 2.0

WebXPRT 3

Intel has aggressively pushed their frequency ramping with Speed Shift, and one of the biggest beneficiaries of Speed Shift is web scripting, since the tasks tend to be very short. AMD is addressing this in Zen 2 with Collaborative Power Performance Control 2, or CPPC2, which is not as elegant of a name as Speed Shift, but promises to drop Zen’s frequency ramping from ~30 ms to ~1 to 2 ms, and will be a welcome addition on our web tests.

SPEC2017 - ST & MT Performance GPU Performance - Vega vs Iris
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  • yannigr2 - Saturday, December 14, 2019 - link

    Nice. Let's run the single threaded SPEC2017 test to show how good Intel is against the new star, the Ryzen 9 3950.

    Let's run the multi threaded SPEC2017 test WITHOUT the desktop CPUs to avoid showing how bad Intel is against the Ryzen 9 3950.
  • yannigr2 - Saturday, December 14, 2019 - link

    Thats way we can title both results as "Intel having an advantage"

    Where is the good old Anandtech?
  • Brett Howse - Saturday, December 14, 2019 - link

    The comparison is 15W AMD to 15W Intel in the same laptop. Please refer to the title of the article.
  • yannigr2 - Sunday, December 15, 2019 - link

    Then why are there results from desktop processors ESPECIALLY on the SINGLE threaded performance, but no results on the multi threaded performance?

    Maybe to advertise the single threaded performance that Ice Lake offers, compared to Zen 2? Maybe because 16 Zen 2 cores obliterate Intel chips on multithreaded tests?

    The fact that you avoid in the article to explain why you only post single threaded, but no multithreaded results from desktop processors explains much. Hides nothing.

    One "Tom's Hardware" is enough. We don't need another.
  • Brett Howse - Sunday, December 15, 2019 - link

    Because it's relevant on single-threaded but irrelevant on multi-threaded. If you're after desktop CPU reviews we have those as well. If we were going to run SPEC multi-thread on a desktop CPU we'd not be running it at Rate 8. Rate 8 was run on these two processors because they have 8 threads.
  • Maxiking - Saturday, December 14, 2019 - link

    Lol, amd trash brigading again.
  • Haawser - Saturday, December 14, 2019 - link

    I think 7nm Ryzen mobile will be a lot more competitive than Picasso. Which is 'ok' for a last generation 12nm effort, but unlikely to hold a candle to a 7nm Zen2 APU. So next year should be a really interesting one as far as notebooks are concerned.
  • Cliff34 - Saturday, December 14, 2019 - link

    Looking at the price, spec and performance, Intel is still the winner in the laptop areana. Why would anyone save 100 dollars for a laptop that is win home, slower and less battery life?
  • eastcoast_pete - Saturday, December 14, 2019 - link

    Two additional comments:
    1. The Ryzen version is overpriced; as is, it would still be an attractive option if the price would be $300 or so less. Right now, the value proposition is on the side of the Ice Lake i7 version.
    2. Many comments here complain about how this comparison is unfair to AMD's APU. Why not complain about AMD not shipping a mobile APU based on Zen2 in 7 nm, preferably with Navi graphics on board, more L3 cache, and LPDDR4 support? Isn't that the likely reason for Ice Lake taking the cake here, and trouncing AMD?

    As is, I view the current Ryzen mobile APUs as good choices for mid-level machines suitable for occasional e-sports gaming, not for running a premium ultraportable $ 2000+ laptop.
  • MBarton - Monday, December 30, 2019 - link

    "2. Many comments here complain about how this comparison is unfair to AMD's APU. Why not complain about AMD not shipping a mobile APU based on Zen2 in 7 nm, preferably with Navi graphics on board, more L3 cache, and LPDDR4 support? Isn't that the likely reason for Ice Lake taking the cake here, and trouncing AMD?"

    Because all Zen 2 production is being channeled into HIGH profit server and HEDT CPU sales. While Intel fans get a moral victory in the Surface 3 review, their 10nm CPU parts are making Intel very little money using a process node they have burned billions trying to get working. AMD doesn't have the convenience of diverting valuable 7nm parts to low margin mobile sales. Congrats to Intel, they've won a much needed but very hollow victory.

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