Conclusions

First of all, I must say that Intel offering us to test a reference system in advance of a launch is a very good thing indeed. It is not something that Intel has done often in the past – in fact the last time I remember it happening was with Broadwell, when Intel sampled us one of their mobile CRB (consumer reference board) systems for the 45W chip. Before that, Intel had a small attempt allowing the press to benchmark Conroe in 2006 with canned pre-provided benchmarks, which did not go down to well. So moving into this pre-testing regime gets some immediate kudos to those who approved the testing.


Intel’s Broadwell / Crystalwell Mobile CRB

Given that the Ice Lake platform is more geared up towards ultra-premium designs, the software development system we ended up testing was certainly a reasonable expectation and direction that these parts would go in. Of course, we only had the best part of nine hours to test, and giving us the option to test both 15W and 25W modes meant we had to pick and choose what tests we thought were relevant. My most prominent feedback to Intel would be to give us two days to test next time, as it allows us to sit on our data after day one and decide what to do next. It was clear that some of the press in attendance only needed a day (or half a day), but for what we do at AT, then two days would be better.


The Intel Ice Lake SDS

As for Ice Lake itself, our results lean towards Ice Lake outperforming Whiskey Lake, if only by a small margin.

To preface this, I want to recall a graph that Intel showed off at Computex:

This graph shows the single thread performance of Skylake and beyond, compared to 5th Gen Broadwell hardware. Right at the very end, we see Whiskey Lake performing +42% above Broadwell, and Ice Lake performing +47% above Broadwell. A quick calculation of 1.47/1.42 means that even Intel is only predicting an absolute gain of ~3.5% for Ice Lake over current generation systems.

The reason why the difference is so small is because of IPC and frequency. Intel is touting a median IPC advantage on the new Sunny Cove cores of +18% against Skylake. That isn’t something we were able to test in the short time we had with the system, but +18% should provide a healthy bump – we actually see a number of key microarchitectural improvements bubble up through in our SPEC testing.

But at the same time, the frequency has decreased – our Whiskey Lake Huawei Matebook system was +500 MHz on the base frequency (+38%), and +700 MHz on the turbo frequency (+18%). If it were not for the vast increase in memory speed, moving from LPDDR3-2133 to LPDDR4X-3733, one might have predicted that the Core i7-1065G7 Ice Lake processor and the Core i7-8565U Whisky Lake processor would have performed equally.

The question here then becomes whether you prefer IPC or frequency. For instruction limited tasks, that answer should be IPC. For critical path limited tasks, you nominally require frequency. All this gets muddled a bit with the increased memory frequency, but with higher IPC at lower frequency, you should arguably be more power efficient as well, leading to longer battery life. At iso-performance between Ice and Whiskey, considering no other factors like price, I would choose Ice.

Intel has made a number of improvements to a chunk of the instruction set that should work well for users, however the new bigger cache design has added a bit of latency there, which ends up being a bit of give and take with cache hits and misses.

Of course, the one area where Ice Lake excels in is graphics. Moving from 24 EUs to 64 EUs, plus an increase in memory bandwidth to >50 GB/s, makes for some easy reading. It gets even better in 25W mode, for games that are CPU limited, but still don’t expect to be tackling AAA games at high resolutions. Despite Ice Lake being focused on the ultra-premium >1080p resolution market, you will still be gaming at 720p or 1080p at best here.

The other alternative is to attach a Thunderbolt 3 external graphics card. If there’s one really good add-in to Ice Lake, aside from the graphics uplift, it’s the inclusion of up to four TB3 ports as part of the CPU silicon. If and when the TB3 controllers get a lot cheaper on the device side, this should really help accelerate a high-performance standard here.

We should also talk about AVX-512 – Intel is in a position right now where including it in the chip uses a good amount of die area, and the software ecosystem hasn’t yet adopted it. By advertising speed-ups like DLBoost, the company is hoping to entice developers to work with AVX-512 in mind, and improve a number of machine learning applications for consumer processors. The other side there is what sort of consumer applications need machine learning that isn’t already done in the cloud. It’s a bit of a catch-22, but in our own testing, the AVX-512 does provide a significant speed-up. However, given Intel’s recent mantra of testing for user experience, it will be interesting to see how hammering the AVX-512 unit meshes with that mantra.

The scope of when these Ice Lake processors are coming to market, and how much, is still a question mark. Intel states that we’ll see Ice Lake in the market for the holiday season (i.e. Christmas), however we have a number of trade shows around the corner, such as IFA in September, where me might start seeing some companies start to show off their designs. We also know that Intel plans to release Comet Lake mobile processors sometime this year, on the old 14nm process and old Skylake-based microarchitecture, but at higher frequencies, so it will be interesting to see how they compete.

Final Thoughts

I’m glad to have tested Ice Lake. It’s a shame that we only had a day to test, because I could have spent a week testing that system. Increasing IPC is the best problem to solve, even if it gives similar performance due to a lower frequency, but hopefully the knock on effect here will be better battery life for users at the same performance. Once we get some systems in to test that battery life, and Project Athena’s requirement of 16+ hours comes to the front, I think we’ll see the best examples of Ice Lake shine through.

 

Gaming Results (15W and 25W)
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  • andrewaggb - Thursday, August 1, 2019 - link

    I'm glad you did the benchmarks. At this point everybody knows intel has manufacturing problems and that availability will be extremely limited for these parts. It's nice to know they have updated designs in a working state and that even with limited clock speeds they're pretty fast. I'm disappointed intel isn't simultaneously releasing these parts on 10nm and 14++++ but hopefully that's because they are more confident about their future roadmap.
  • eastcoast_pete - Thursday, August 1, 2019 - link

    I think they ran out of space to fit any more "++++" after the 14 nm.
  • StormyParis - Thursday, August 1, 2019 - link

    Don't they have cross-licensing with MS, allowing them to use '#' for 3+ '+' ?
  • brunis.dk - Friday, August 2, 2019 - link

    Tell me why i need to prepare months in advance? It's great you get a paper launch product in hand. But to me it's still a paper launch. What's different here from you just releasing the benchmarks on availability day? If i was in the mood for a new cpu/mobo purchase i would start saving up and buy whatever is best on the day. Agree with brakdoo!
  • Kvaern1 - Saturday, August 3, 2019 - link

    Blink if someone is forcing you to read AT articles and you need help.
  • close - Tuesday, August 6, 2019 - link

    @Kvaern1, your point that people should not criticize. So you can either applaud or move along? If nobody ever calls you out for anything then when do you learn? Pointing out something like a paper launch coming from a manufacturer with a history of deception is no without merit.

    Now whether this applies to this article is a different matter. But your low quality sarcasm response and the "only open for praise" attitude shows some troubling mediocrity.
  • eva02langley - Friday, August 2, 2019 - link

    Ian, those companies do things like that for a reason. IMHO, they want to make the public believe that 10nm is a reality, when in fact it is still a fairy tale. Intel knows that the frequency drop, the yield and the price doesn't worth the trouble to switch to 10nm. Sure, they told investors that 10nm exist and they are releasing products to claim this, but in reality, 10nm will be just there so Intel doesn't need to admit to investor that 10nm is a fiasco. If they did, the price of the stock will lose significant value and it would affect the public perception of the company.

    This is what I can take from this whole thing.
  • Klimax - Friday, August 2, 2019 - link

    Is sky blue in your world or is it some version of red? You may have had point a year or two back...
  • 0ldman79 - Friday, August 2, 2019 - link

    Uh...

    They reworked the entire 10nm process to get it going.

    This isn't impossible, it is expensive and time consuming.

    They've spent the $$$ and at least a year working on it.

    It is hardly unheard of that the single most successful tech company on the planet figured out a problem.
  • close - Tuesday, August 6, 2019 - link

    @0ldman79 "the single most successful tech company" - that's the overstatement of the millennium. And of course I'm no stranger to overstatements.

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