The MSI MEG X570 Ace Motherboard Review: Ace in the Hole at $369
by Gavin Bonshor on July 18, 2019 11:00 AM EST- Posted in
- Motherboards
- AMD
- MSI
- AM4
- Zen 2
- Ryzen 3000
- X570
- MEG
- X570 Ace
- 3700X
- Ryzen 3700X
Power Delivery Thermal Analysis
One of the most requested elements of our motherboard reviews revolves around the power delivery and its componentry. Aside from the quality of the components and its capability for overclocking to push out higher clock speeds which in turn improves performance, is the thermal capability of the cooling solutions implemented by manufacturers. While almost always fine for users running processors at default settings, the cooling capability of the VRMs isn't something that users should worry too much about, but for those looking to squeeze out extra performance from the CPU via overclocking, this puts extra pressure on the power delivery and in turn, generates extra heat. This is why more premium models often include heatsinks on its models with better cooling designs, heftier chunks of metal, and in some cases, even with water blocks.
Testing Methodology
Our method of testing is going to focus on if the power delivery and its heatsink are effective at dissipating heat. We run an intensely heavy CPU workload for a prolonged method of time and apply an overclock which is deemed safe and at the maximum that the silicon on our AMD Ryzen 7 3700X processor allows. We then run the Prime95 with AVX2 enabled under a torture test for an hour at the maximum stable overclock we can, which puts insane pressure on the processor. We collect our data via three different methods which include the following:
- Taking a thermal image from a birds-eye view after an hour with a Flir Pro thermal imaging camera
- Securing two probes on to the rear of the PCB, right underneath CPU VCore section of the power delivery for better parity in case a probe reports a faulty reading
- Taking a reading of the VRM temperature from the sensor reading within the HWInfo monitoring application
Two K-Type Thermal Probes attached to the rear of the power delivery on the MSI MEG X570 Ace
The reason for using three different methods is that some sensors can read inaccurate temperatures, which can give very erratic results for users looking to gauge whether an overclock is too much pressure for the power delivery handle. With using a probe on the rear, it can also show the efficiency of the power stages and heatsinks as a wide margin between the probe and sensor temperature can show that the heatsink is dissipating heat and that the design is working, or that the internal sensor is massively wrong. To ensure our probe was accurate prior to testing, I personally binned 10 and selected the most accurate (within 1c of the actual temperature) for better parity in our testing.
For thermal image, we use a Flir One camera as it gives a good indication of where the heat is generated around the socket area, as some designs use different configurations and an evenly spread power delivery with good components will usually generate less heat. Manufacturers who use inefficient heatsinks and cheap out on power delivery components should run hotter than those who have invested. Of course, a $700 flagship motherboard is likely to outperform a cheaper $100 model under the same testing conditions, but it is still worth testing to see which vendors are doing things correctly.
Thermal Analysis Results
We measured 61.2°C on PCB between the CPU socket and power delivery
The MSI MEG X570 Ace uses a 12-phase CPU VCore design with an International Rectifier IR35201 running in a 6+2 configuration with six IR3599 doublers for the VCore section. This is quite an effective design and should be more than capable of handling of reaching the thermal limits of the processor long before the VRM reaches its own limits. Its heatsink also features an interesting design as the aluminium heatsinks on the power delivery is connected via a heat pipe to the chipset heatsink which is channelled around the memory slots. The chipset heatsink is actively cooled and although it is designed to keep the X570 chipset cool, it should provide a little thermal relief to the power delivery; in theory at least.
As we get more results, we will endeavour to update this chart when more models have been tested
Note - The ASRock B450 Gaming ITX-ac model crashed instantly every time the small FFT torture test within Prime95 was initiated. At anything on the CPU VCore above 1.35 V would result in instant instability. The Ryzen Master auto-overclocking function failed every time it tried to dial in settings, but it does however operate absolutely fine at stock, and with Precision Boost Overdrive enabled. Either the firmware is the issue, or the board just isn't capable of overclocking the Ryzen 3700X with extreme workloads with what is considered a stable overclock on the X570 chipset. We will re-test this in the future.
Our thermal testing shows that not only is MSI's heatsink design effective on the MEG X570 Ace, but the power delivery actually dissipates heat appropriately. We ran our AMD Ryzen 7 3700X testbed sample at 4.1 GHz with a CPU VCore of 1.475 V just to generate as much pressure as we could. We did get thermal throttling when using the maximum allowed VCore of 1.55 V and decided to dial it back a touch. The sensor integrated into the power delivery gave us a reading of 66°C after an hour of our stress test, while our VRM probe temperature sensor on the rear of the PCB gave us a reading of 61°C. It was very warm in our test area at the time of testing with an ambient temperature of between 29 and 30°C, so this probably attributed to slightly warmer conditions than usual. One of the notable aspects was that we frequently hit CPU temperature limitations before we hit VRM thermal limitations. All-in-all, the MSI MEG X570 Ace performs well under our thermal testing conditions and we have no fears that this model won't handle overclocks on any of the current Ryzen 3000 range with its effective and efficient design.
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Irata - Friday, July 19, 2019 - link
+1I would really like to see the USB performance (also CPU connected USB ports vs. chipset connected ones), the sound quality, network performance.
But overall this is already imho a good review, but it would be better with more tests.
FreihEitner - Thursday, July 18, 2019 - link
It's a crying shame that X470 and X570 only rarely make it to mATX boards. At last count (that I've seen) there are more micronic mITX boards sporting X570 than there are reasonably sized mATX boards sporting X570. I think I've still only ever seen maybe 2 mATX X470 boards as well.Yes my mATX case CAN take an mITX board, but I actually use the second PCIe slot.
Death666Angel - Friday, July 19, 2019 - link
I've only seen one X470 mATX board from AsRack server. But unless you have some interesting PCIe card needs, I doubt 250€ makes much sense for it. :D What was the other one you saw?I'm also a die hard mATX defender, but from what I heard (Buildzoid) it doesn't sell well an manufacturers are not devoting a lot of RnD to it. I think there were a few mATX X570 announced way back when (or leaked) but so far only AsRock has delivered. B550 might come to the rescue, but I wanted a new system now (Haswell is getting long in the tooth), so I just got the MSI Mortar and am happy.
br83taylor - Thursday, July 18, 2019 - link
lack of SATA ports means this motherboard is DOA. What were they thinking....notashill - Thursday, July 18, 2019 - link
They were probably thinking that people who use more than 4 SATA+3 NVMe drives are an incredibly tiny niche not worth catering to with this specific board.FreckledTrout - Thursday, July 18, 2019 - link
I'm pretty sure 3 NVMe drives plus 4 SATA drives satisfies a vast majority of use cases for this type of motherboard.DanNeely - Friday, July 19, 2019 - link
The chipset IO lanes that could have powered 4 more sata ports would end up being shared with either the 3rd m.2 slot or the 3rd PCIe slot and that the cost of support tickets from people who got confused about using feature A disables feature B is higher than profit from the handful of people trying to use a near flagship level consumer motherboard to build a storage server.pavag - Saturday, July 20, 2019 - link
I have a large collection of SATA drives which I want to keep running. Each time I replaced one HDD with SSD, I moved the disk to my desktop, so I care a lot for the quantity of SATA ports.Qasar - Friday, July 19, 2019 - link
um.. is everyone that is complaining about the prices of X570 boards, aware that there could be a B570 chipset still yet to come to target the lower price points of boards ? or has AMD stated that X570 is the only chipset for zen 2 ?haukionkannel - Friday, July 19, 2019 - link
Yes 550 is coming next year!But most b450 boards Are just fine for ryzen3000. Just check out the vrm and you will be fine.