The catch is on the used market you can pickup 1080 (non-Ti) for <$300. I recently picked one up for $250 off Facebook Market, and I've seen 1070Ti's for $200.
It's mostly people dumping and buying into the ray tracing train. And even with these cards, as fast as they are, you still need to spend a LOT (hundreds more) for a card not significantly more powerful than a 1080.
i meant the 2080 since that is the performance target of the 2070 super. stock to stock is close if you compare to a 2080 with 1710mhz boost. but many are clocked 1800 or higher and the overclocking headroom will still be much better on the old 2080 vs the 2070 super. its the same chip and you run into the frequency wall at the same range. the 2070 super just has less cores.
King of value my ass! The GTX 1080 Ti has always been too expensive and these RTX cards are just obscene. But that's what happens when they trick you with anchoring. If you don't understand, go watch "Let’s go whaling: Tricks for monetising mobile game players with free-to-play" video on YouTube and skip to 12:27
I bought the 2070 super for the ray tracing hardware, which the 1080 Ti does not have and doing ray tracing in software the 1080 Ti can't compete with the 2060 let alone the 2070 or the Super cards.
Yup. RTX cards are still priced as if they launched 3 years ago. Pathetic Nvidia and even more pathetic consumers who give them a dime. Nvidia completely destroyed the GPU market where only fools buy into it.
As someone that plays computer games just fine on crappy, slow iGPUs like Bay Trail graphics or a Radeon HD 6310, I can safely say that you can waste just as many hours of your life rotting away behind slow, cheap hardware if you're the slightest bit selective about the titles you pick to play on your hardware so yes, there is literally zero reason to give a flying you-know-what about what graphics card does what or even really care overly much about the sort of computer you currently own as long as the stupid thing boots up and all its buttons work.
the games i play.. wouldn't work as well on vid cards like the ones you use Peach :-) to graphically intensive, and when your turn the eye candy down.. kind of looks like games from the mid 90s in DOS....
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tamalero - Wednesday, July 3, 2019 - link
You mean the 1080ti right? the 2080 >= 1080TI, not vanilla 1080. Therefore 2070 super is closer to 1080TI territory.Samus - Wednesday, July 3, 2019 - link
The catch is on the used market you can pickup 1080 (non-Ti) for <$300. I recently picked one up for $250 off Facebook Market, and I've seen 1070Ti's for $200.It's mostly people dumping and buying into the ray tracing train. And even with these cards, as fast as they are, you still need to spend a LOT (hundreds more) for a card not significantly more powerful than a 1080.
Opencg - Wednesday, July 3, 2019 - link
i meant the 2080 since that is the performance target of the 2070 super. stock to stock is close if you compare to a 2080 with 1710mhz boost. but many are clocked 1800 or higher and the overclocking headroom will still be much better on the old 2080 vs the 2070 super. its the same chip and you run into the frequency wall at the same range. the 2070 super just has less cores.Gastec - Wednesday, July 17, 2019 - link
King of value my ass! The GTX 1080 Ti has always been too expensive and these RTX cards are just obscene. But that's what happens when they trick you with anchoring.If you don't understand, go watch "Let’s go whaling: Tricks for monetising mobile game players with free-to-play" video on YouTube and skip to 12:27
bchiemara - Friday, March 6, 2020 - link
I bought the 2070 super for the ray tracing hardware, which the 1080 Ti does not have and doing ray tracing in software the 1080 Ti can't compete with the 2060 let alone the 2070 or the Super cards.techxx - Tuesday, July 2, 2019 - link
Yup. RTX cards are still priced as if they launched 3 years ago. Pathetic Nvidia and even more pathetic consumers who give them a dime. Nvidia completely destroyed the GPU market where only fools buy into it.PeachNCream - Tuesday, July 9, 2019 - link
As someone that plays computer games just fine on crappy, slow iGPUs like Bay Trail graphics or a Radeon HD 6310, I can safely say that you can waste just as many hours of your life rotting away behind slow, cheap hardware if you're the slightest bit selective about the titles you pick to play on your hardware so yes, there is literally zero reason to give a flying you-know-what about what graphics card does what or even really care overly much about the sort of computer you currently own as long as the stupid thing boots up and all its buttons work.Qasar - Wednesday, July 10, 2019 - link
the games i play.. wouldn't work as well on vid cards like the ones you use Peach :-) to graphically intensive, and when your turn the eye candy down.. kind of looks like games from the mid 90s in DOS....Questor - Friday, July 5, 2019 - link
Exactly!Santoval - Wednesday, July 3, 2019 - link
Branding matters significantly. *You* might buy RTX 2080/2070 Trash, but most people will definitely not. You might not care but Nvidia surely does.